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Hello fella's
Anyone done any work in France? Doing a job for my sister and have walked into a world of pain! Figured it would be different here but was a underestimated just how different. Need to skim off a room which is a mixture of stud and masonry. Have ruled off the masonry wall using their idea of an undercoat, (a product called Map which is more like a board adhesive, bloody horrible to use!), now I need to finish. Got any recommendations for an equivalent multi finish that can be obtained from the likes of Chausson or Gedimat?

Cheers.
 
we always take our own thistle plasters down there with us. we know what a hole france is
 
Below is from French Entree. I'm a cut and paste specialist.
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Personally I've given up and will bring English plaster over over here.

Tricky question. I have learned to use french plaster now but it has taken a while.

Mixing
mix equal weights of powder and water, sprinkle the powder into the water, DO NOT MIX, leave for 5 mins then mix to thin paste (like milk) with a drill plus attachment

applying
everything must be ready and prepared, get your board etc ready and dampened. Thoroughly damp the wall.
For a rough wall I like to do 2 coats in 1 day.

when the plaster JUST starts to set pour it onto your board then test it every 20 secs until it is just about thick enough to use.
for 1st coat I try to get it approx flat and fill any larger holes.
Get it on the wall fast, you have about 5 minutes to use that lot up. Use the heavier stuff at the end for the larger holes.
Coat the whole wall then let dry a bit, give it an hour or so.

Next get out a hosepipe and thoroughly wet the wall (until the water starts to run off it!)
mix as before and apply but this time use a wet sponge and trowel to get a good finish once the plaster has set very slightly (about a minute). DO NOT wait 20 minutes like with english plaster.
it takes around 2 months to dry to the point you can paint it
It is not as easy as english plaster, you can't make as many mistakes and you need to work FAST. I only use it for rough walls, if you are coating plaster board I'd take a couple of bags of english with you.
I find the main advantages now that I have got used to it are;
it's quick to put up (several large walls in a day from rough render to nice finish)
it's mega cheap
it can be carved for upto a day after applying to neaten up corners/beams etc
it fills gaps much much better than english plaster
it is much better for your old walls than the brittle english stuff
it's bloody good excercise
 
LOL. Yup, it would appear that I have made a school boy error. However Im here, a long way south of the channel and will have to make do with what I can get hold of.

To that end I was hoping for a pointer, ie a name on a bag!!! :RpS_thumbsup:
 
Dont listen to him you will struggle with these type of plasters just source some one coat/ machine plaster put it on a bit thicker than normal finish, flatten, when it starts turning sponge float then trowel up.
 
Mouldy said:
LOL. Yup, it would appear that I have made a school boy error. However Im here, a long way south of the channel and will have to make do with what I can get hold of.

To that end I was hoping for a pointer, ie a name on a bag!!! :RpS_thumbsup:
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The clue is on the top - French Entree. This sort of thing has been discussed at length with numerous suggestions with people working full time in France. No one agrees on the best way way forward so you've got to do your own research to find a solution that suits you - there's several name types its your decision.
 
lucius said:
Dont listen to him you will struggle with these type of plasters just source some one coat/ machine plaster put it on a bit thicker than normal finish, flatten, when it starts turning sponge float then trowel up.
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Ok bud, Ill take a look at the local merchants in the morning. Should be a laugh as Mon Francais c'est mairde!
 
sliemasteve said:
The clue is on the top - French Entree. This sort of thing has been discussed at length with numerous suggestions with people working full time in France. No one agrees on the best way way forward so you've got to do your own research to find a solution that suits you - there's several name types its your decision.
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Thanks for the first post, but didnt need to take a pop with this one. If youll notice the post of mine that you quoted was sent at a similar time to yours! :rolleyes)
 
You could try Lutece 2000L (red & white bag) from somewhere like Point P or Reseau Pro < I think they do it there, definitely sell it at Point P.
It's a white onecoat plaster use it like Lucius says above, I've got a smooth flat finish with it on plasterboard, if you get any small blisters they will dry trowel out.
Can use it as undercoat plaster too on most backgrounds.
If you get Lutece 2000c (blue & White bag) just be aware it sets quicker than 2000L.
 
Nisus said:
You could try Lutece 2000L (red & white bag) from somewhere like Point P or Reseau Pro < I think they do it there, definitely sell it at Point P.
It's a white onecoat plaster use it like Lucius says above, I've got a smooth flat finish with it on plasterboard, if you get any small blisters they will dry trowel out.
Can use it as undercoat plaster too on most backgrounds.
If you get Lutece 2000c (blue & White bag) just be aware it sets quicker than 2000L.
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Thanks mate. There is a Point P around the corner, also a Chausson and a Gedimat on the way to the job. Will take a gander in the morning.
 
You'll be fine mate :RpS_thumbup:
It's our job to use & get used to different plasters & you will just know when it's ready to trowel etc..
It should come naturally, if not your fcuked :RpS_biggrin:

Do a search on here mate for lutece2000 there's a few posts on how to use it :RpS_wink:
 
That just sounds very confusing too me,like someone from here could go over to French France and earn very well.mmmm..
 
If anybody on here ever needs plaster shipped over to somewhere like france search for shiply or uship.they have couriers etc going over to europe an they bid on jobs .also all over uk anything up to cars!good luck!c'est cidre!lol
 
First bit done today. Funny old gunk aint it?? Sort of got the hang of using it, (but not mixing it!!!), but I got to say I dont like it much!!!!
 
lilharbs said:
That just sounds very confusing too me,like someone from here could go over to French France and earn very well.mmmm..
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the french workforce only work 30 hours a week with income tax about 40per cent nobody wants to know. the english people purchase houses there and can not get the work done on time. any work done costs a lot of money. thats why they employ english trades. ok for the very short time, a few weeks, but tax must be paid if you hang around
 
Also quite expensive to live in France, Mouldy dont whisk it to much it dont like a lot of air in it.
 
lucius said:
Also quite expensive to live in France, Mouldy dont whisk it to much it dont like a lot of air in it.
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Dosent seem that expensive to be honest, food shopping is less then the UK, so is fuel. Houses are definalty cheaper. Taxes are higher but then so are wages. My main trade is plumbing and I could expect to earn around €300 a day here. You have to register as a trade though and as I am a multi that could cost up to €3000 a year for insurance. Loads of space, less traffic and the ladies have got very sexy voices. Whats not to like?? :RpS_laugh: (I know...the shite they pass off as plaster!!!)

Anyway, back on topic. Thanks for the heads up on whisking. Mixing it is a pain in the arris. Seems to stay like pi$$ for ages and then starts to set up. definitely havent got that bit sorted yet.
 
use this stuff its as good as multi finish i used it loads in france mixing the other gear equal parts with water works but its shite to finish thats why they have a couple guys on one wall
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We are plastering ceilings and walls with 2000L French plaster. Seems to be going on quite well but there are some reservations about whether it'll need painting afterwards.
Does anyone have any experience of how the finish sets and if it's been necessary to paint.
Thanks
 
Mouldy said:
Hello fella's
Anyone done any work in France? Doing a job for my sister and have walked into a world of pain! Figured it would be different here but was a underestimated just how different. Need to skim off a room which is a mixture of stud and masonry. Have ruled off the masonry wall using their idea of an undercoat, (a product called Map which is more like a board adhesive, bloody horrible to use!), now I need to finish. Got any recommendations for an equivalent multi finish that can be obtained from the likes of Chausson or Gedimat?

Cheers.
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use their casting plaster from lafarge or molda and put a bit of lime in it, spreads like butter
 
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