Grit does not always work

MakeItSmooth said:
Fair point - when I posted, I had it in mind that maybe the grit product had detached from the artex due to the artex surface unexpectedly not allowing the grit to bond properly, for some reason - i.e. if that happened, it would be out of control of the person doing the plastering (aside from overboarding it). If it was a kitchen rather than a lounge, my first thought would've been possible cooking grease on the ceiling.
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But the grit is clearly still bonded to the ceiling? No white patches so it can't be cooking grease.

This has destroyed my faith in grit a bit - I thought the stuff was bullet proof
 
megamix said:
Yes not sure if it was on here or FB. But someone put pictures up of skim failing on green grit .
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As above - I thought the stuff was so expensive because it's bomb proof. I've been going around telling customers it's a miracle product
 
After how many year's it's likely to be some sort of stress that's caused the failure. Skims far more brittle than artex, so not surprised the artex is still up.
 
megamix said:
Depending how big the room . A pack of coving cost about £30 max and will do an average room and will go up in an hour . Sometimes it’s just as cheap to pull cove off, board skim and cove again
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Take longer to get it out than to put it up....lol
 
Stevieo said:
As above - I thought the stuff was so expensive because it's bomb proof. I've been going around telling customers it's a miracle product
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I’ve noticed that the cemtone stuff is really smooth and doesn’t have much grit in it . I know it rolls on better but maybe that’s why it’s failing (not gritty enough ) . Now the thistle bond it is expensive but it’s really gritty to the point where you need to keep stirring it because all the grit falls to the bottom . So maybe if your gonna use it bite the bullet and buy the good stuff . I’d put money that the one in this post is not thistle bond it .
 
Stevieo said:
But the grit is clearly still bonded to the ceiling? No white patches so it can't be cooking grease.

This has destroyed my faith in grit a bit - I thought the stuff was bullet proof
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Confession - I didn't enlarge the pic; I just looked at the thumbnail clearly showing flaked plaster, so I didn't clock that! :rayos:

You were more observant than me!

I would really like to know why the bond failed (as others have said, it might be too thick, or unstable ceiling), because I agree with you that it's disconcerting to see a failure when you rely upon a product to have your back.
 
MakeItSmooth said:
Confession - I didn't enlarge the pic; I just looked at the thumbnail clearly showing flaked plaster, so I didn't clock that! :rayos:

You were more observant than me!

I would really like to know why the bond failed (as others have said, it might be too thick, or unstable ceiling), because I agree with you that it's disconcerting to see a failure when you rely upon a product to have your back.
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@Stevieo codename "beady eye"
 
Artex is flexible ( depending on the pattern and applicator ) due to all the gaps created by areas of pattern scraped to the board
Fill it all in and add a few mm skim and it's flexibility is fxcked
 
Stevieo said:
Not to call you out but that's definitely not my experience of Bond-It. You have to scrape it off and it's all stringy and rubbery.
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I used some on a property last year, preferred it to blue grit as it goes on a bit smoother, but from what i remember, it comes off if you get it too wet.
 
Stevieo said:
Perhaps you can help me out seeing as you're so good with names.

I was thinking of getting a cat.

Shortlisted names are -

Deadly Mustafa
Iron Gustav
And Honest Ron

Which do you think would be best?
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Wildlifekiller Jim
 
Fek, that's cheered me up no end, I've bought all the gear for covering the artex, now what's best to make it stay up there? waterproof PVA? Bond it? Etc? - Advice welcome.

(Missus will kill me if it start coming down - she's right scary when mad!)
 
Brimstone said:
Fek, that's cheered me up no end, I've bought all the gear for covering the artex, now what's best to make it stay up there? waterproof PVA? Bond it? Etc? - Advice welcome.

(Missus will kill me if it start coming down - she's right scary when mad!)
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I’ve always gone with pva mate . They only issue I’ve had with artex is sometimes I’ve had the dreaded bleb mid trowel , before you know it half the ceiling is on the floor . Over the years I’ve been able to be a good judge on how the artex will react . For example if I’ve done a ceiling on a particular housing estate I’m confident the rest of the houses are ok . But still doesn’t mean I’ve not been caught out and it’s sole destroying when it happens
 
Tom81 said:
Any one use micro gobetis internally
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Yep, but only really over problem substrates.

Like really glossy paints or super high suctions

Also if there are extremes of suction on one wall, like lime plaster then a bit of board work, then a bit of painted backing etc.
It evens out the suction.

Also same a s Wickes bonding agent
 
Stevieo said:
That's the good bit about living in a loft apartment. Not many mice make it up this far
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Its not the mice you need to worry about!

Grit does not always work
 
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