Hand balling v machine

[tottiman]

Hi guys. We hand ball 20 - 30 bags of mono a day doing domestics. If using a machine your doing over 100 bags a day, do you earn five times the money?.lol. I love the idea of getting a machine, but dont want to get one just to earn the same amount as i do now. Or is it just because it makes life easier?

 

[Arti]

I would say both, it makes life easier and you can put on more, your making the same money but in less time allowing you to do more job, so in essence your also making more money

 

[Danny]

Hi guys. We hand ball 20 - 30 bags of mono a day doing domestics. If using a machine your doing over 100 bags a day, do you earn five times the money?.lol. I love the idea of getting a machine, but dont want to get one just to earn the same amount as i do now. Or is it just because it makes life easier?

sounds like you are a perfect candidate for a machine

 

[keithuk]

Hi guys. We hand ball 20 - 30 bags of mono a day doing domestics. If using a machine your doing over 100 bags a day, do you earn five times the money?.lol. I love the idea of getting a machine, but dont want to get one just to earn the same amount as i do now. Or is it just because it makes life easier?

How many is we mate ? ,to be honest i am happy with 40/50 m2 a day as a two man gang ,i never seen the point of saying the best m2 i have done as a rule of thumb to others

 

[tottiman]

Theres 3 of us keith, and it is hard work. Love to get a machine, if you can earn a few more pennies to off set the 7k cost

 

[keithuk]

Where in Kent are you mate ?,if you want to spend a day with us to see how it works ,you are welcome

 

[tottiman]

Where in Kent are you mate ?,if you want to spend a day with us to see how it works ,you are welcome

In gravesend keith, near dartford. Yes that would be massive help.

 

[keithuk]

Good old Dartford !i was born there ,rather just you then the whole gang !,the offer is there if it helps mate

 

[tottiman]

Good old Dartford !i was born there ,rather just you then the whole gang !,the offer is there if it helps mate

Yes for sure, would it be ok for 2 of us keith, my younger brother always brings the donuts.

 

[Arti]

If they're Jam, count me in too

 

[tottiman]

f**k it im coming if theres donuts

Lol, i bring some when i bite the bullet. Thanks Stuart

 

[keithuk]

Well if Stu is in he has spent 20 years on machines and is your local dealer ,my offer is open still

 

[keithuk]

Yes for sure, would it be ok for 2 of us keith, my younger brother always brings the donuts.

no worries mate ,i will pm my number

 

[tottiman]

Well if Stu is in he has spent 20 years on machines and is your local dealer ,my offer is open still

Whenever it would be convenient for you keith

 

[Arti]

no worries mate ,i will pm my number

WTF..................av been after your number for years and you just give it out willy nilly..........................your such a slag keith.............................

 

[MikeAtthis]

Donuts what time we starting Keith

 

[keithuk]

WTF..................av been after your number for years and you just give it out willy nilly..........................your such a slag keith.............................[

sorry John

 

[Rigsby]

Thats a very good offer by Keith and Stuart. A donut for Keith and a whole packet for Stuart.

You will get more on by your putting on shut off time but as Keith said 40-50m is plenty. It is for me making it more easier than more M2. Your joints will last a lot longer and once you master it you will not want to use a trowel ever again. I put rend aid on as well with mine and spray primers on. Made me really lazy. even put buckets coat on with it.

PFT is a good make and Stuart will look after you.

 

[keithuk]

Thats a very good offer by Keith and Stuart. A donut for Keith and a whole packet for Stuart.

You will get more on by your putting on shut off time but as Keith said 40-50m is plenty. It is for me making it more easier than more M2. Your joints will last a lot longer and once you master it you will not want to use a trowel ever again. I put rend aid on as well with mine and spray primers on. Made me really lazy. even put buckets coat on with it.

PFT is a good make and Stuart will look after you.

i wish i was worth more then a donut !lol

 

[owls]

You can only put on what you can finish. 30 bags a day every day, you must have arms like Popeye.

 

[owls]

A machine isn't just about getting more money by more areas, it's about making the job easier and it taking less a toll on your body which is worth more than any money.

 

[tottiman]

Must admit, do get fed up with all the agro that goes with hand balling it. If a machine runs sweet, then it has to be worth it.
They would be Krispy Kremes keith

 

[Rigsby]

When and if you do spend a day with Keith be there at set up and focus more on the machine than the spraying. Also watch youtube vids on using machines.

 

[DaveAndersonREP]

Hi guys. We hand ball 20 - 30 bags of mono a day doing domestics. If using a machine your doing over 100 bags a day, do you earn five times the money?.lol. I love the idea of getting a machine, but dont want to get one just to earn the same amount as i do now. Or is it just because it makes life easier?

Hi there I am the Sales and Technical rep for PFT Central /Plasterers 1 Stop Shop we have various machines on our website suitable for spraying Mono. All machines make life easier as they remove the task of getting the material to the wall and as such increase the amount you can apply, the main factor with how much you spray on is limited to how much you can finish. We also have a range of machines available to hire on a weekly basis which all come with full training at our premises in Cheltenham so you can try before you commit yourself to a purchase.
The type of machine you need would be decided by the main type of work you want to use it for IE Internal plastering or external rendering although they do cross over. If you would like further information or to arrange a Demonstration please contact me on 07773 286659. Regards Dave

 

[MikeAtthis]

Tottiman just pop 60 m2 on with the ritmo in less than 3 hours two of us if that help

 

[theclemo]

Tottiman just pop 60 m2 on with the ritmo in less than 3 hours two of us if that help

Was that in 2 passes.

 

[MikeAtthis]

Yeah two passes full mesh

 

[user_removed]

As has been said, you will earn more due to being able to turn jobs over quicker.

It is still hard work but bigger panels now don't worry me like they use to 40m +

A good investment which takes time to learn (we are just about getting it after 5 months and about 15 jobs) 1&1 gang

 

[Putzmiester]

You could never compare hand applying to spray applying ,different ball game lads .Ive done both over the years and spray application is by far the better ,even just the fact that all material stays at ground level is enough for me,always having a Constance mix,getting it on quickly,no lift lines,getting the right amount on the wall,dubbingout-easily,less mess ?..could go on and on all night but won't bore you all lol

 

[Rigsby]

You could never compare hand applying to spray applying ,different ball game lads .Ive done both over the years and spray application is by far the better ,even just the fact that all material stays at ground level is enough for me,always having a Constance mix,getting it on quickly,no lift lines,getting the right amount on the wall,dubbingout-easily,less mess ?..could go on and on all night but won't bore you all lol

Whilst the machine is running fine. Pain in the arse when they go dicky.

 

[nickelarse]

Put it this way. Iv had 3 machines. New one is a ritmo L. Paid it off on the first job I did. Took a couple of weeks. The rest is yours for life . No brainer

 

[User___removed]

I can't remember when my ritmo f**k*d up.runs smooth as all the time now.most problems happen in the early years on set up