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now ive thought about it im with flynny on the skimmin. but for hardwall etc i would use a machine ideally
 
machine looks like a cleaner way your clothes are pristine!!

Danny

My elbow hurts just thinking about going on the tools!
 
i would say a board still takes 2 mins coz when one guy is flattening the next board is being sprayed on...

60m would be 21 boards so 42 mins. i stand corrected. :P

and if u wanna be finiky it was actually 1min50 :)

first guy falls back to start of hit, which is still wet, 2nd guy cleans machine then starts on the 2nd half.

im not saying its loads faster or anything, just a hell of a lot easier and i can go home feeling like i havent bust my ar$e
 
nick0412 said:
i would say a board still takes 2 mins coz when one guy is flattening the next board is being sprayed on...

60m would be 21 boards so 42 mins. i stand corrected. :P

and if u wanna be finiky it was actually 1min50 :)

first guy falls back to start of hit, which is still wet, 2nd guy cleans machine then starts on the 2nd half.

im not saying its loads faster or anything, just a hell of a lot easier and i can go home feeling like i havent bust my ar$e

I still say an extra 30secs to flatten taking into account cleaning ceiling angles filling out beads and reveals and i think im being very generous giving you 30 secs :) I have sprayed before mp75 and its fast but the cleaning out and the mess.................f**k that, not to add the waste of whats left in the hopper. Also dragging that machine about is a lot harder than dragging a whisk and buckets, You would also be paranoid of it goin missing or breakin.


PS i say 52 mins :P
 
i no what ur saying, but generally we park the van next to the pallet outside, put machine next to pallet and pump it into the house. cleaning is outside so dont really worry about any mess and spray water when cleaning hoses into the skip. and i always put machine backin the van every day.

but anyway, who cares :)
 
nick0412 said:
i no what ur saying, but generally we park the van next to the pallet outside, put machine next to pallet and pump it into the house. cleaning is outside so dont really worry about any mess and spray water when cleaning hoses into the skip. and i always put machine backin the van every day.

but anyway, who cares :)


well nick as sad as it sounds i do care, do you think i would be sat up at 20 past 12 in the week when i need to be up for 7 if i didnt care? :)
 
nick0412 said:
lol. i no, i need to make my sandwiches. and iv gotta be up leave at 7!!

How fast can you make your sandwiches? Do you use a knife to butter the bread or do you spray it on? I can butter a piece of bread in under 20 seconds with a butter knife = 0.1m, ten slices = 1m of bread, my mate follows me adding the ham and cheese in around 20 secs so thats 60 secs for one sandwich x 5 = 5 minutes and we can eat them in under 5 minutes what ya reckon is that any slower than normal?
 
how can you say thats slow , the demo we done was 36m2 it was on and layed down in under 15 minutes and thats with people playing around with it , you think you can do that quicker by hand then feel free to try i look forward to seeing the video, the hawk and trowel will never be replaced because there are times when it's just not practical to pull the machine out but then there are more times when its not practical to use a hawk and trowel, i know what i'd rather use
 
The point is simple, there are some who will put down machines, dont know why but they do. Its not worth arguing with these people. We have just completed over 4500m2 of MP75 in 9 weeks , just two of us . we had merlin with us for 8 days of that making 3 of us. That includes a lot of dubbing out of walls , I would like to see a 2 gang do that in hardwall.
 
I'd say there are deffinate advantages on certain jobs, and dissadvantages on others.

Unfortunately I do only domestic, and a machine wouldnt be worth the hassel and outlay.

If I did sitework or big jobs then I would deffinately rent one to see.
 
simplybesty said:
The point is simple, there are some who will put down machines, dont know why but they do. Its not worth arguing with these people. We have just completed over 4500m2 of MP75 in 9 weeks , just two of us . we had merlin with us for 8 days of that making 3 of us. That includes a lot of dubbing out of walls , I would like to see a 2 gang do that in hardwall.
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southernmonkey said:
how can you say thats slow , the demo we done was 36m2 it was on and layed down in under 15 minutes and thats with people playing around with it , you think you can do that quicker by hand then feel free to try i look forward to seeing the video, the hawk and trowel will never be replaced because there are times when it's just not practical to pull the machine out but then there are more times when its not practical to use a hawk and trowel, i know what i'd rather use

If your on about that demo on that plasterboard wall with no ceiling angle and a good run with no sockets weve already had this discusion, i told you i would have it on quicker all layed down than that machine and i challenged you to it in the same set up ie a flat wall with no ceiling. Im not gonna explain coz i already have and if i remember you agreed, if your not i apolagise :)
 
simplybesty said:
The point is simple, there are some who will put down machines, dont know why but they do. Its not worth arguing with these people. We have just completed over 4500m2 of MP75 in 9 weeks , just two of us . we had merlin with us for 8 days of that making 3 of us. That includes a lot of dubbing out of walls , I would like to see a 2 gang do that in hardwall.

Nobody is putting the machine down we are discussing it, grow up. :)
 
Bottom line is

WILL you earn more money in your hand by using the Ritmo for skimming ??

Nick says he does. and i think as more people use them we will get more actual feedback, but with the amount of uses the ritmo has you would not have wasted you're money.
 
as soon as someone disagrees with a machine the die hards are all over them .. poor old flinny said dont pounce on him. He still a nobbbb end though
 
sprayit said:
as soon as someone disagrees with a machine the die hards are all over them .. poor old flinny said dont pounce on him. He still a nobbbb end though

i agree with you. if you do alot of rendering or backing plaster then get a machine. i said earlier that spraying finish looks easier and less stress than hand applying but it is slower.
 
if you had a whole set to do machine verses hand applied i think machine applied would be quicker!
 
steve cov said:
sprayit said:
as soon as someone disagrees with a machine the die hards are all over them .. poor old flinny said dont pounce on him. He still a nobbbb end though

i agree with you. if you do alot of rendering or backing plaster then get a machine. i said earlier that spraying finish looks easier and less stress than hand applying but it is slower.

How is it easier? you still have to go over with your trowel i cant really see much difference with havin gear on your trowel, its exactly the same amount of trowels putting on as flattening. Ive not sprayed finish but looking at it wouldnt it blister more? And you are applying it in one coat which is frown upon but what has been said is multie was designed to be applyed in one coat but ive only heard that off someone who swears by the machine and not any other sources, can someone find a link to how many coats should multie be applied in? I personally think its two coz thats the way i was taught and learnt at college and all other finishes are applied in two. Multie to my knowledge is multie coz it can be applied to a multie amount of backgrounds so anyone shine any light and before the machine boys go sick ITS A DISCUSION, I wont accept information like " my mate said" or "the guy who sold me the machine said" so come on lets get some facts on the table. :)
 
merlin said:
if you had a whole set to do machine verses hand applied i think machine applied would be quicker!

The demo thats been mentioned ie skimming a flat wall i think the trowel and handboard would be quicker and im also including setting up.
 
all you have to do is ask nick as he has a ritmo and uses it for skimming and has obviously hand applied so nick is it faster? and flynny you seem to have a real big stick up your arse about machines ?
 
merlin said:
all you have to do is ask nick as he has a ritmo and uses it for skimming and has obviously hand applied so nick is it faster? and flynny you seem to have a real big stick up your arse about machines ?

No i dont, you seem to have a stick up your arse when anyone questions a machine, your not the only one with a stick up their arse when someone questions a machines capabilities, ive always said they have their uses ie rendering and at a stretch backing plasters but never finish.
 
flynnyman said:
merlin said:
all you have to do is ask nick as he has a ritmo and uses it for skimming and has obviously hand applied so nick is it faster? and flynny you seem to have a real big stick up your arse about machines ?

No i dont, you seem to have a stick up your arse when anyone questions a machine, your not the only one with a stick up their arse when someone questions a machines capabilities, ive always said they have their uses ie rendering and at a stretch backing plasters but never finish.
like i said ask somebody who knows and has done both methods , mardy arse :P
 
merlin said:
flynnyman said:
merlin said:
all you have to do is ask nick as he has a ritmo and uses it for skimming and has obviously hand applied so nick is it faster? and flynny you seem to have a real big stick up your arse about machines ?

No i dont, you seem to have a stick up your arse when anyone questions a machine, your not the only one with a stick up their arse when someone questions a machines capabilities, ive always said they have their uses ie rendering and at a stretch backing plasters but never finish.
like i said ask somebody who knows and has done both methods , mardy arse :P

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flynnyman said:
merlin said:
flynnyman said:
merlin said:
all you have to do is ask nick as he has a ritmo and uses it for skimming and has obviously hand applied so nick is it faster? and flynny you seem to have a real big stick up your arse about machines ?

No i dont, you seem to have a stick up your arse when anyone questions a machine, your not the only one with a stick up their arse when someone questions a machines capabilities, ive always said they have their uses ie rendering and at a stretch backing plasters but never finish.
like i said ask somebody who knows and has done both methods , mardy arse :P

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merlin said:
flynnyman said:
merlin said:
flynnyman said:
merlin said:
all you have to do is ask nick as he has a ritmo and uses it for skimming and has obviously hand applied so nick is it faster? and flynny you seem to have a real big stick up your arse about machines ?

No i dont, you seem to have a stick up your arse when anyone questions a machine, your not the only one with a stick up their arse when someone questions a machines capabilities, ive always said they have their uses ie rendering and at a stretch backing plasters but never finish.
like i said ask somebody who knows and has done both methods , mardy arse :P

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:-* lol
 
flynnyman said:
merlin said:
flynnyman said:
merlin said:
flynnyman said:
merlin said:
all you have to do is ask nick as he has a ritmo and uses it for skimming and has obviously hand applied so nick is it faster? and flynny you seem to have a real big stick up your arse about machines ?

No i dont, you seem to have a stick up your arse when anyone questions a machine, your not the only one with a stick up their arse when someone questions a machines capabilities, ive always said they have their uses ie rendering and at a stretch backing plasters but never finish.
like i said ask somebody who knows and has done both methods , mardy arse :P

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