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been asked to do a job for a builder,thay have tacked a kitchen ceiling and its all over the place and he wants it dead flat and level,i no bondind it out is the only way but i would be gratefully for any tips that would make it easier to do thx ;) the ceiling is about 24 sqm
 
could they not rip it down an start again or is that not an option cos at the end of the day its there fault and find out why is it all over the place?tell them you will do itthen you know its right builders are tossers they just dont care
only other option is bonding i guess
 
madmonk said:
could they not rip it down an start again or is that not an option cos at the end of the day its there fault and find out why is it all over the place?tell them you will do itthen you know its right builders are tossers they just dont care
only other option is bonding i guess
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no what it is tha need the height as well because its a low ceiling thay cant counter battern it eather
 
i used to go out my way to make jobs as perfect as i could but now ive come to realise that people like that (builders) do the main work themselves to save money (more profit obviously), then want you to make it perfect, but with what you've got. wouldnt suprise me if they expect you to build it out with skim. skim it as it is. do your job as you would. then when they moan about it being up and down, ask them who boarded the ceiling?
 
if i have to bond it out whats the best way on a ceiling this size :'(
 
Just do your best with it...... they like all builders just want a quick cheap job so just explain you will do your best but it needs re-boarding really.

I would give all the joints a nice coat of skim and any uneven boards then 2 nice coats as usual.

If it is so bad that it needs bonding then it needs re boarding and tell them so.

Rich
 
If you have to bond it out use a straight edge to find your hollows and fill them only dont bond out the enire ceiling
 
richardbrown said:
If you have to bond it out use a straight edge to find your hollows and fill them only dont bond out the enire ceiling
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i think he was on about bonding out the lot ,if so would u skim the same day
 
why bond the lot? like rich said you only need to bond out the hollows. then skim it the same day.
 
steve cov said:
why bond the lot? like rich said you only need to bond out the hollows. then skim it the same day.
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i no but thats what he said lol
 
well tell him if he knows the best way to do it. then do the f**k er. or else shut up and let you get on with your job.
 
steve cov said:
well tell him if he knows the best way to do it. then do the (french word) er. or else shut up and let you get on with your job.
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lol like it ;)
 
i had an arguement with a builder we do work for. he used to come in and the first thing he would do is put a level on the wall. or if he'd say how much finish do you need. so i'd tell him. and he'd say thats enough for 2 good coats is it? it got a bit boring so i told him he might know about general building but he cant teach me f**k all about plastering. and if he knew that much why does he get us in to do it?! then he started with the 'im only winding you up' bulls hit.
 
steve cov said:
i had an arguement with a builder we do work for. he used to come in and the first thing he would do is put a level on the wall. or if he'd say how much finish do you need. so i'd tell him. and he'd say thats enough for 2 good coats is it? it got a bit boring so i told him he might know about general building but he cant teach me (french word) all about plastering. and if he knew that much why does he get us in to do it?! then he started with the 'im only winding you up' bulls hit.
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all the small builders are propper cowbows ,a propper builder will not get his hands dirty thay will just employ a few trades and project manage the works ,,,i think anyway ,a good builder should know the very best of all aspects of the trades dont u think Ste
 
madmonk said:
i would bond the lot then if thats what he wants do it morning skim it all afternoon same day
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thats like going into a car garage and telling the mechanic how to fix your car. people ask you to do your job because its exactly that, your job, you do it day in day out so know the best way of doing things.
 
Im with Rich on this. Just fill out the hollows using a straight edge and skim same day.
If he wants the whole ceiling doing then he needs his head checked. Have you put a straight edge on it yet to see how far out it is?
 
Bruce Willis said:
Im with Rich on this. Just fill out the hollows using a straight edge and skim same day.
If he wants the whole ceiling doing then he needs his head checked. Have you put a straight edge on it yet to see how far out it is?
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no he rang me about it today
 
Theres obviously a right way and the way this builder wants it done. All you can do from the sound of it is suggest to fill out the low spots. If he still insists on the whole ceiling being done then get Kirk to give you his guide on screeds.
Failing that run away.
 
steve cov said:
madmonk said:
i would bond the lot then if thats what he wants do it morning skim it all afternoon same day
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thats like going into a car garage and telling the mechanic how to fix your car. people ask you to do your job because its exactly that, your job, you do it day in day out so know the best way of doing things.
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and what if all the ceiling lines are all over the place too your near enogh going to bond it all out in any case we all dont know howmuch its out so im just hazard a guess yes obvoius just do all the hollows but if thats what he wants i would just do it
 
madmonk said:
you could dab the ceiling with boards level em all up then screw through afterwards ;)
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do u no what i was thinking somthing of the same eirler but thay would sag i think ???
 
kirk johnstone said:
flat boy skim said:
madmonk said:
you could dab the ceiling with boards level em all up then screw through afterwards ;)
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do u no what i was thinking somthing of the same eirler but thay would sag i think ???
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are you going to do it my way mate?
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yes i am its makes sence m8
 
richardbrown said:
how the (french word) do you set screeds and d+d a ceiling ... ffs never heard so much (german word) in all my life
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dont know much about dabbing ceilings, but as for your question about setting screeds.... well this is how they used to do it on good class work when you are working over lath, you just apply the same principle.

would anyone be interested in how to set the screeds so that the ceiling is spot on level and flat?
 
kirk johnstone said:
richardbrown said:
how the (french word) do you set screeds and d+d a ceiling ... ffs never heard so much (german word) in all my life
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dont know much about dabbing ceilings, but as for your question about setting screeds.... well this is how they used to do it on good class work when you are working over lath, you just apply the same principle.

would anyone be interested in how to set the screeds so that the ceiling is spot on level and flat?
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not really :P
 
If its for a builder batton it out in mahogany timbers useing kevlar packers and platinum screws and charge the kunt 8 grand :)
 
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