How long to re skim?

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I'm just wondering how long it would take someone to skim a ceiling around 4.5m x 3m.

The ceiling to start with had stipple on it. It's had the stipple de nibbed and has been pva'd and one skim already but some of the white stipple is still rearing it's ugly head, it's flat and smooth but you can just see the white tips of the stipple so it's in need of another skim. I'm not doing the job but still interested to find out how long it would take to do the ceiling again by a trade level plasterer.

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njh1979 said:
I'm just wondering how long it would take someone to skim a ceiling around 4.5m x 3m.

The ceiling to start with had stipple on it. It's had the stipple de nibbed and has been pva'd and one skim already but some of the white stipple is still rearing it's ugly head, it's flat and smooth but you can just see the white tips of the stipple so it's in need of another skim. I'm not doing the job but still interested to find out how long it would take to do the ceiling again by a trade level plasterer.

Cheers
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3 t0 4 hrs
 
You do get the odd bit now and then as long as its not loads, how much did he charge? more than likely regardless of how long, its probably 4-5 hours work a plasterer would charge the full day maybe slightly under if you're lucky
 
U'd have to bill em half day at least and thats if you have another half day local etc .... but only so many coats of finish ou can bang on a ceiling imo - always worth checking how much bounce is in the ceiling before smashin a set on
 
Rebording the ceiling = Customers budget being tight.

No it was 2 coats sorry my poor explaining. I'm just trying to see if someone is trying to pull the wool over somebodies eyes that's all.
This isn't the plaster's fault but someone has been charged 3 days work for something that looks like it is only a day 1/2's work max if not a day.
 
njh1979 said:
Rebording the ceiling = Customers budget being tight.

No it was 2 coats sorry my poor explaining. I'm just trying to see if someone is trying to pull the wool over somebodies eyes that's all.
This isn't the plaster's fault but someone has been charged 3 days work for something that looks like it is only a day 1/2's work max if not a day.
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Never 3 days, in my opinion anyway, I can see it been pva'd the day before but that only takes ten mins, two coats of skim should only take 4 hrs, unless a bonding coat was put on as a first coat ,even so still only a day//////
 
njh1979 said:
Rebording the ceiling = Customers budget being tight.

No it was 2 coats sorry my poor explaining. I'm just trying to see if someone is trying to pull the wool over somebodies eyes that's all.
This isn't the plaster's fault but someone has been charged 3 days work for something that looks like it is only a day 1/2's work max if not a day.
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It seems a bit strange? Who's pullin the wool or who's gettin the wool pulled??? It is the plasterers fault! Who's the plasterer? you? Or are you the customer??
 
The story is a little hard to explain but the customer has pulled a fast one and I think he may well get his bathroom plastered in those three days as well and he won't be paying anything for it just say that.
 
The person who did the 2 coat skim in the first place refunded 3 days worth of money to the customer because apparently that's what he was told it would take but I think that is including the bathroom.
 
njh1979 said:
The person who did the 2 coat skim in the first place refunded 3 days worth of money to the customer because apparently that's what he was told it would take but I think that is including the bathroom.
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It is odd, so who told the plasterer to charge 3 days money? and who told him to give three days money back? and how much did he get in the end?one days money?
 
njh1979 said:
The story is a little hard to explain but the customer has pulled a fast one and I think he may well get his bathroom plastered in those three days as well and he won't be paying anything for it just say that.
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Did you plaster it njh????? What's the story??
 
and the customer is trying to get the guy who has refunded money to pay for a bathroom to be plastered that was left because the customer fancied having a go at plastering so was going to do his own bathroom until he found out that it was lime plastered and would draw..
 
so, customer wants money knocked off for work not done,but now wants that work done for free,your relationship with the customer 0r plasterer is?
 
Ceiling got skimmed by first guy (I know him).
Customer was happy.
2 Weeks later he says he can see white bits coming through on the ceiling and he wasn't happy.
1st guy lives 2 1/2 hrs away so not feasible for him to come back.
Customer calls in another plasterer, walks him around job but instead of just showing him the ceiling shows him extras to i.e bathroom, window reveals etc.
Plasterer has said 3 days work including bathroom, ceiling, reveals etc.
Phones original guy up and says to get it fixed 3 days work so he refunded him just because he didn't want to cause any arguments...
 
Customer calls in another plasterer, walks him around job but instead of just showing him the ceiling shows him extras to i.e bathroom, window reveals etc. (p.s This is what I think has gone on)
 
so the first lost out or overcharged in the first place, to refund three days money on one ceiling is really bizarre
 
Just say I'm the one caught in the middle because I know the guy who did the initial coat and I also know the person who the job was done for. The person refunding the money didn't want to cause any rifts just say that. There was alot of building work involved in the job as well so the ceilings were included in price work.
 
njh1979 said:
Just say I'm the one caught in the middle because I know the guy who did the initial coat and I also know the person who the job was done for. The person refunding the money didn't want to cause any rifts just say that. There was alot of building work involved in the job as well so the ceilings were included in price work.
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Ok smoke and mirrors thread?? FFs it's like an episode of columbo:rolleyes) talkin in riddles!!!!! I'm out:rolleyes)
 
in my opinion no one can be overcharged if a price is given and its accepted then thats the price to be paid, if people think there being over charged then dont accept the quote.
this is not a dig at you njh at all and i know its got nothing to do with the original topic, ive just picked up on people say that the "customer" was overcharged in the first place.............he wassnt, he was given a price and he accepted it, thats the only point im making, no ones ever overcharged if they accept the price.
 
jrp, I'm swaying on the trades side here and not the customer even though I know him. He has tried to squeeze as much as he can for as cheap as possible. At the end of the day price work is price work.

If someone is nearing their budget suggesting re boarding etc is kinda out the question. It annoys me when people want something done to the highest standards but paint a picture in your head that they are shorting on money.
 
Right I think I've got you......
1.The customer is skint.
2. He got a plasterer* to do an overskim and he wasn't happy with the result.
3. He then asked someone else to price the rest of the plastering work - including that ceiling - and has persuaded/guilt-tripped the first plasterer to pay for it.
4. Even though the customer initially felt confident to plaster the bathroom himself, he is unwilling to do a ickle bit of sanding on that ceiling.

Conclusion.............the 1st bloke wasn't a plasterer cos he would know that there isn't 3 days work involved and the customer is a knt who deserves a bit of misfortune. May the fleas of a thousand camels visit him :RpS_thumbup:
 
Mechanics charge by the hour because they can, they have a queue of cars outside and takes 5 mins to swap them over, if a plasterer commits himself to a job then chances are that's his time for the day it's just the way it is
 
A garage charges hourly for each and every job, it has cars/vans queuing to get fixed/diagnosed, A plasterer leaves his house to go to a job,that is his first cost,fuel/running costs/possible parking/congestion charge costs/ if a job takes him four hours to do ,he also has prep time,bringing in his tools ,collecting materials etc, then actually doing the job, then cleaning up after, then going home.. What is he to do with the rest of the day..Sorry but you used the worst analogy here and seemingly have no clue re the workings of a spread
 
bubbles65 said:
Right I think I've got you......
1.The customer is skint.
2. He got a plasterer* to do an overskim and he wasn't happy with the result.
3. He then asked someone else to price the rest of the plastering work - including that ceiling - and has persuaded/guilt-tripped the first plasterer to pay for it.
4. Even though the customer initially felt confident to plaster the bathroom himself, he is unwilling to do a ickle bit of sanding on that ceiling.

Conclusion.............the 1st bloke wasn't a plasterer cos he would know that there isn't 3 days work involved and the customer is a knt who deserves a bit of misfortune. May the fleas of a thousand camels visit him :RpS_thumbup:
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You got it near enough:RpS_thumbsup:. The guy who did the initial 2 skim has plastered before and in theory knows how long it should take but when phoned about the issue wasn't able to really talk so instead of hanging up kind of agreed and before he's had chance to think about the whole thing a cheque had been posted by his wife for compensate.
 
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