How the F***k do u do it?????

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humm well are dad has done it years and says he was showen by a man who can smash out rooms.. ect and he puts it on a few walls then uses the same mix and tops it all off with no flatten'in! and seems to work OK i think in2 things so much! but 30-45 off a set is a big thin when its ur life!
 
forget flattening then laying down flattening is a waste of a trowel and a waste of time, fill your beads and tapes turn back and give it a nice flat coat and dont use any waer on the wall just keep your trowel clean.
 
Gonna get hung for this, but i carry 5 litres of dirty water, use this sometimes for 1 coat work, mix it up and fill out the beads, etc,. so its going off, then lay normal stuff over the top. Rough c**t at times ! :D
 
i may have only just realised this but being on a forum only allows you to compare peoples opinions..
ive worked with people who swear theyre the best finishers in the land but when you see their 'topped with the same mix, quick trowelled finish'.. its like f'ckin orange peel...
if it doesnt feel exactly like glass when its had its final trowel :-X.... if you can feel it, you can see it when its painted..
 
flynnyman said:
forget flattening then laying down flattening is a waste of a trowel and a waste of time, fill your beads and tapes turn back and give it a nice flat coat and dont use any waer on the wall just keep your trowel clean.
whats youre average set size flynny?
 
cards in at the mo so takin it easy but last year on site 35m on average if they were big wall 45/50m a guage and thats mixin and cleanin out myself.
 
start at about ten had a prob gettin out of bed back then and only two guages and set up for the next day, used to piss a lot of the other plasterers off especially when i was leavin at fourish.
 
Chris W said:
i may have only just realised this but being on a forum only allows you to compare peoples opinions..
ive worked with people who swear theyre the best finishers in the land but when you see their 'topped with the same mix, quick trowelled finish'.. its like f'ckin orange peel...
if it doesnt feel exactly like glass when its had its final trowel :-X.... if you can feel it, you can see it when its painted..

You just shouldn't leave your walls like glass, I'm not trying to be clever but I've had my work checked time and time again by the NHBC over the last twenty years and when their judges rub their hands over my walls they often comment how nice it is to find walls that are not to smooth to recieve the paint without the need for prep.
 
yep but a nice c**t :)
stilts, megamixer, 20" trowel, spot on boarding and working in a clean area helps ;)

Clean your beads and sockets, trowel as far as the hand feels to impress the idiot who likes the way it feels and your laughing.
 
leave em like glass as you final trowel and theyll feel like eggshell when theyre dry...
this is newbie stuff andy you know what i meant..
the added moisture gives a more friction free surface when damp..
leave em rough after final trowel theyll be dog rough when dry...
you can leave em smooth after final trowl but using the same mix to top will leave em smooth but like orange peel... only way i can think to describe it..
i know you know what i mean...
 
Oasis no offence meant but if these guys are turning work out of a reasnable standard at a rate of knots with their own method its because they are experienced and done plenty of site work.
Lucius
 
essexandy said:
I did a couple of houses using the one coat method some years ago (when BG said to) but found that to get the required thickness on in one coat the gear needed to be that much rounder that it was harder work putting it on neat and tidy and quickly. The finish could still be just as good as two coat work but on balance I preferred to go back to two coat work apart from when I have a bit of gear left over going a bit stiffer at the end of a hit, then I throw on a small ceiling or wall to save waste and it wont hold you up at the end of the hit.
this is where the pft ritmo comes in ::)
.........theres alot of one coaters come out of the closet ;D
 
Chris W said:
leave em like glass as you final trowel and theyll feel like eggshell when theyre dry...
this is newbie stuff andy you know what i meant..
the added moisture gives a more friction free surface when damp..
leave em rough after final trowel theyll be dog rough when dry...
you can leave em smooth after final trowl but using the same mix to top will leave em smooth but like orange peel... only way i can think to describe it..
i know you know what i mean...

Sorry Chris I'm not trying to wind you up but I really don't know what you mean, I never aim to leave my walls like glass and rarely finish my walls with a dry trowel, only doing this when they haven't gone very well (usually due to my impatience and starting troweling to soon). Unless I'm completely missing your point as I can be more than a tad thick, after all I did become a spread ;)
 
Oh dear I've been doing it wrong all these years and I've just got of the phone to my old man, I gave him a right rollicking for teaching me incorrectly and I promise that on Monday I will start calling all my past clients and apologise profusely, oh and all the decorators that have followed me as well :-[
 
if you get the diamonds the jobs right if it looks like santas grotto then you wont get shelled find your easiest way to do a good fit for purpass job and push the mtrs allways remember you cant polish a turd
 
Grand, this is an open forum to anyone and when it comes to jobs like that you cant say until its in the bag. I bet there are people who come on here who never post or join. If it was a couple of houses i would say but that size job does not come up at the moment and it wouldnt take much for someone to realise it was the same job as they were pricing.
 
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