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segs what a childish way to end your post, do you really think im taking you for a c....? your wrong m8 i just enjoy asking questions about things and i know theres peeps out there that enjoy answering them, i know i sometimes asked too many, mayby ill learn from that.. er no i wont actually. ill ask away. same response dont answer if your sick of me asking. its that easy.

dpbeds did i say how much i was charging him, or did i say i priced for 2 coats and im now doing 1.?? trust me like i said ive done lots of work for him and im about to do hes whole bathroom, (including render a wall which i havnt done before where ill charge for the materails and few beers.) but a proper price for the rest of the room. Case closed.

oasis your just too young to understand. ;)

flynnyman and church - here here thanks (2 coat it is)

anyway ive not go any more questions for now... er oh hang on a minute :o
 
flynnyman said:
come on lads dont be jealous coz some have and some havent, fruit cake asked a perfectly normal question you would expect to find on PLASTERING forum, instead of moaning about him getting work and taking your kids inheritence lol give him the answer and advising him to render oin one coat is takin the (french word), scratch it first with a stronger mix than your top coat it will give you time to rule it flat and reduce cracking. Wether he has 7 or 1 years experience doesnt matter he asked a question and if you dont want to answer dont...................:)

Erm are you telling me that when you float and set you give the block work 2 coats of render ???? dont be soft !!
 
richardbrown said:
flynnyman said:
come on lads dont be jealous coz some have and some havent, fruit cake asked a perfectly normal question you would expect to find on PLASTERING forum, instead of moaning about him getting work and taking your kids inheritence lol give him the answer and advising him to render oin one coat is takin the (french word), scratch it first with a stronger mix than your top coat it will give you time to rule it flat and reduce cracking. Wether he has 7 or 1 years experience doesnt matter he asked a question and if you dont want to answer dont...................:)

Erm are you telling me that when you float and set you give the block work 2 coats of render ???? dont be soft !!

with sand and cement yeh, its a suction thing............even when im floating with hardwall or toughcoat i give it a coat then a second turning back straight away and ruling it. Get in the habit of one coating s & c and it will come off in sheets and crack.
 
two coats yes, one straiaght after the other mate not two coats two seperate days , 1st coat kills the suction straight away second coat gives you more time to rule it and get it plumb .... hope this makes sence
 
I seeeeeeeeeeeee

I have never done it, If its pulling a bit quick then I wet the wall ifits not then one good coat of render and rule it. I have never had a problem doing it this way and have never had a comeback or the render coming off in sheets. In fact this is the way I was taught and I have never seen it done the way you have explained, maybe its a northern thing ??? I suppose it boils down to more than one way to skin a cat again

Rich
 
Ok lads's firstly let me apologise for my drunken personal attack on Fruit , Fruit i apologise for the personnell attack on your self , i was a little tipsy after my Sunday aft session (bloody good day i might add ;D) and should not off tried to read posts let alone reply to them.
As for the answers to his questions lads if you read the very first two posts on this thread you will see i have answered his questions as they were asked and if you take note off Quest 2 it says and i qoute
2 ok. but i usualy give a quick scratch and straight over as you go
and has i said his post was answered in the way he answered the questions, Then all this pollava started . I understand questions need to be asked but Surely it would of been easier and less confusing to go into the newby section and read the various posts on rendering and rendering after damp etc etc to get an idea on mixes, additives etc.
But again i apologise chaps for my drunken retort :-*
 
flynnyman said:
advising him to render oin one coat is takin the (french word), scratch it first with a stronger mix than your top coat it will give you time to rule it flat and reduce cracking.

So just to clarify, when you float and set you scratchcoat the wall then clean up,then make another mix (weaker) to top coat everything, then skim ....
 
why ?????

Why would you want to give yourself that extra work, if the walls are new block and good it just doesnt need it.
 
church said:
two coats yes, one straiaght after the other mate not two coats two seperate days , 1st coat kills the suction straight away second coat gives you more time to rule it and get it plumb .... hope this makes sence
 
richardbrown said:
flynnyman said:
advising him to render oin one coat is takin the (french word), scratch it first with a stronger mix than your top coat it will give you time to rule it flat and reduce cracking.

So just to clarify, when you float and set you scratchcoat the wall then clean up,then make another mix (weaker) to top coat everything, then skim ....
 
phippsy333 said:
lol.....nah mate prvious model to 1000's.....even the 100s are out dadted...way forward now is traktor and beringer 3000 its amazing......plays mp3s etc.....and loops all sorts.....cds are out of date now
....its all about the itunes......now all i have to do is get rid of my 35,000 records....then my ceiling might stop sagging
 
to many egos on this site. Constant slagging off People who have done courses because to be a true plasterer u have to have started at Eight years old and done a Twenty year apprentiship. I don't consider my self a plasterer, more a general builder but my finish is as good as if not better than some 'TIME SERVED' spreads.
Give everyone a chance, let them ask, and educate them with what u know ;D.
stop the bitchin.

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Best to do 2 coats anyway m8 firstly if the wall is uneven...get first coat as flat as poss...then top coat will be easy...i've one coated before on fairly flat walls and still had problems with slumping. Best to always 2 coat unless very small area.

Man the amount of bickering that goes on this forum is f**king crazy...if all of you put the effort u spend slagging each other off into trying to win work...u wouldn't be out of work lol.
 
Points taken on board but really I can honestly say I have never had a problem with float and set render or hardwall 1 coat so am not going to change and really I have never seen anyone else 2 coat either !!!

Rich
 
Richard working on a Sunday! times are hard!

nice site m8...almost got mine finished...i'm looking to become a contractor, how did you become one? is it a simple phone call to r&c? are there certain conditions to meet?

as for one coating each to their own innit m8...long as its flat, ceiling, corners and skirting line are good happy days ;)
 
Hello freed,

Thanks.

To become a contractor you need to provide proof to the tax man that your turnover is 30k plus then just fill in a few forms and your done.

Rich :)
 
richardbrown said:
richardbrown said:
flynnyman said:
advising him to render oin one coat is takin the (french word), scratch it first with a stronger mix than your top coat it will give you time to rule it flat and reduce cracking.

So just to clarify, when you float and set you scratchcoat the wall then clean up,then make another mix (weaker) to top coat everything, then skim ....


or even easier scratch 4-1 then add a few shovels of sand to whats in the mixer which will make it 5-1 and float clean out then rub up..........:)
 
I dont get it, Im usually on big jobs banging it out havent got time to scratch then go over again would have to price out the window... im having my pants pulled down as it is
 
i used to work with a lad who two coated ........one coat myself especially on new block
 
You see I two coat....

Sling the first coat on some where near then put a seccond one straight over... always seems to rule off easier!!

But then it comes back to he cat thing

Dannny
 
It hasnt got to be thick.

I lay fast and flat so can lay a wall pretty quickly and it needs very little ruling to get it right.

Rich
 
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