Is this good quality plastering? Am I being ripped off? Advice

could you just imagine the sound of the tough system in that room

the echo would be foooooking amazing :rock:
Use to be a club in Torquay, the old monastery fuckingg awesome nights in there, till it got shut down for class A’s, proper ravers heaven
 
As said, pay for a specialist report. Then tell them to jog on .or you will call the police . And they will get sent back to finish there sentence. Were they English.
 
Is this good quality plastering? Am I being ripped off? Advice

Dalek - EXTERMINATE!
 
Thanks for your advice guys. At the moment, I've let them know that we're not prepared to pay that amount, and they're of course arguing that we should. They're suggesting an alternative figure, and I'm suggesting my own.

I just noticed that there wasn't beading (I believe) in the corners where our plasterboard meet... It's all just a wee nightmare really! I can run my fingertip inside the gap?

Is this good quality plastering? Am I being ripped off? Advice


I'll let you know how it all ends.
 
Thanks for your advice guys. At the moment, I've let them know that we're not prepared to pay that amount, and they're of course arguing that we should. They're suggesting an alternative figure, and I'm suggesting my own.

I just noticed that there wasn't beading (I believe) in the corners where our plasterboard meet... It's all just a wee nightmare really! I can run my fingertip inside the gap?

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I'll let you know how it all ends.
Don’t not give them a penny. they’ve totally mugged u off , they are not trained/time served spreads , tell them to fook off and u will be suing them. It’s not even close bud
 
If threatening them with an architect tell them the inland revenue sent an inspector out on a tip off, you will never hear from them
Again
 
So, in your experience chaps, what is the best way to tackle discussing this?
You need to be honest and tell them your not happy with the finish! Everyone on here can see its shite. If they have any decency then they will sort out there mistakes, if they get pissed then report them to trading standards. Don’t pay them anything until it’s sorted. Good luck
 
You need to be honest and tell them your not happy with the finish! Everyone on here can see its shite. If they have any decency then they will sort out there mistakes, if they get pissed then report them to trading standards. Don’t pay them anything until it’s sorted. Good luck

If they had any decency, they'd have scrimmed everything properly before they even mixed any skim.
 
It's a bit of a nightmare, as you'd expect there is no excuse why new plasterboard walls aren't flush... but I don't want to get into a huge fight with them.

They've rated their work as £25 / hour. I feel, that the quality of the work is half of what I expected, how would you approach this situation gentlemen?

£25 an hour for one tradesperson? That is cheap going rate is around £37.50 per hour.

Those cracks on the ceiling will all come back through if they did not use paper tape bedded and skimmed over then sanded back.

How did they fix the plasterboard to the walls?

10 -15k worth of work there for professional team.
 
Personally I would have primed the whole ceiling and put a tight coat of bonding or high impact if restoration and embedded glass fibre render mesh in the plaster for the whole ceiling. What a waste of time preparing and filling all those cracks. Bad spec or bad advice.
 
Some extra info

* Their price is based on 293 hours of work priced at £25 an hour (mostly done by 2 folks)
* The hall is a former church so its about 9m x 18.

Most of the walls were just crack repairs in the plaster, but the bottom section was replaced by plasterboard (about 1 meter high) all the way around.

We supplied the scaffold etc, and supplies like plaster-board etc. The pink is the original walls. There is a lot of cracks fixed on the ceilings however, only half of them (or less) were filled in and taped over.

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that's more like a 10k job. prime it (thistle bond it) + a coat of bonding and mesh + full skim. And it looks like a church to me, so no money should be spared. Hire proper tradesmen next time!
who in their right ming would even start that for £1.5k? were they smoking something?
 
£25 an hour for one tradesperson? That is cheap going rate is around £37.50 per hour.

Those cracks on the ceiling will all come back through if they did not use paper tape bedded and skimmed over then sanded back.

How did they fix the plasterboard to the walls?

10 -15k worth of work there for professional team.
Hi, I don't think the average tradesman is on 300 a day some are but plenty on 200

15k would be a couple of guys for over a month they'd need very long lunch breaks to drag that out
 
Hi, I don't think the average tradesman is on 300 a day some are but plenty on 200

15k would be a couple of guys for over a month they'd need very long lunch breaks to drag that out

Most drivers are charging £15 per hour and our cleaner charges £17 per hour and there are tradesman charging £200 a day with all the overheads of a business...they won't be around for long.
 
Charge yourself out at £250 and make £50 on lab = £300 a day.

Sorry bud not bullshitting this is minimum I take home I also make money by organising other trades...waste removal...skips you name it all marked up at least 20% can take day rate upto £350 - £400 on some jobs.

We are all in this together remember?
 
Most drivers are charging £15 per hour and our cleaner charges £17 per hour and there are tradesman charging £200 a day with all the overheads of a business...they won't be around for long.
Your cleaner charges you £17 but they don't earn £17 an hour a self employed plasterer has very little overheads earning 1k a week he'll be around for a while yet
 
Your cleaner charges you £17 but they don't earn £17 an hour a self employed plasterer has very little overheads earning 1k a week he'll be around for a while yet
He lives in narnia mate prices are better there.i don't get all this overheads in a self employed plasterer.a buisness yes but a self employed plasterer has pretty much the same overheads as a average working person who works in a office.insurance 4 van there have insurance 4 the car.diesel there have petrol or train fare money to get to work.public liability is peanuts.u don't buy tools every week you buy when needed which isn't that often when u have full set up.oohh I've gone all markel
 
He lives in narnia mate prices are better there.i don't get all this overheads in a self employed plasterer.a buisness yes but a self employed plasterer has pretty much the same overheads as a average working person who works in a office.insurance 4 van there have insurance 4 the car.diesel there have petrol or train fare money to get to work.public liability is peanuts.u don't buy tools every week you buy when needed which isn't that often when u have full set up.oohh I've gone all markel

Funny you should mention Transport Spud...5 years ago I bought a Transit 12K with 45000 miles on the clock...this year I will be forced to buy a Euro 6 Transit second hand 17K with around 70K miles on the clock due to clean air zone in city...will probably get a few grand for my old van...a new hybrid van will set you back around 50K. Average house prices 300K here. Nursery £1.5K a month. 6K take home month gets you by in the South West.
 
Funny you should mention Transport Spud...5 years ago I bought a Transit 12K with 45000 miles on the clock...this year I will be forced to buy a Euro 6 Transit second hand 17K with around 70K miles on the clock due to clean air zone in city...will probably get a few grand for my old van...a new hybrid van will set you back around 50K. Average house prices 300K here. Nursery £1.5K a month. 6K take home month gets you by in the South West.
Nursery fees being a business overhead is abit of a push. Spudknit is right overheads for self employed is not much different from anyone else other than 100 public liability what's different?
 
Nursery fees being a business overhead is abit of a push. Spudknit is right overheads for self employed is not much different from anyone else other than 100 public liability what's different?

Nothing different I guess if you turn up in your dusty Ford Fiesta with a speed skim on site.

If you are a contractor were you going to store all your machines...tools etc? back of the van? Be lucky to get a a secure unit round here for under £600 a month...and insurances? vans, tools, machines, public and employee liability, storage insurance

Costs me minimum £50 a day in overheads just to go to work!

Not been funny RHardy but you sound like one of those that mouths off about how much the boss is making and how little you are earning without having a clue how much it costs to run a business.
 
Nothing different I guess if you turn up in your dusty Ford Fiesta with a speed skim on site.

If you are a contractor were you going to store all your machines...tools etc? back of the van? Be lucky to get a a secure unit round here for under £600 a month...and insurances? vans, tools, machines, public and employee liability, storage insurance

Costs me minimum £50 a day in overheads just to go to work!

Not been funny RHardy but you sound like one of those that mouths off about how much the boss is making and how little you are earning without having a clue how much it costs to run a business.
Gets on my tits ignorant employee calculating like that and feeling being taken advantage of when it’s possible you’re having the stress of running a business just for them to have a job when the figures ain’t coming in at a profit
 
Nothing different I guess if you turn up in your dusty Ford Fiesta with a speed skim on site.

If you are a contractor were you going to store all your machines...tools etc? back of the van? Be lucky to get a a secure unit round here for under £600 a month...and insurances? vans, tools, machines, public and employee liability, storage insurance

Costs me minimum £50 a day in overheads just to go to work!

Not been funny RHardy but you sound like one of those that mouths off about how much the boss is making and how little you are earning without having a clue how much it costs to run a business.
Yes but we are talking about self employed here not a buisness? What's different overheads of a self employed 1 man band to a nurse who travels to work?
 
Yes but we are talking about self employed here not a buisness? What's different overheads of a self employed 1 man band to a nurse who travels to work?

Most self employed would say they are running a business...I run just under the VAT threshold...I'm a sole trader.

As I said if you are turning up to site with your speed skim and sponge in a clapped out Ford Fiesta maybe you don't have many overheads possibly not even an accountant?

To be honest I would probably be happy with £200 a day if my overheads were that low.
 
Sorry Spud but I'm with FreeD and think his numbers are about right. Sole traders are in business, just ask HMRC. HMRC even give a help sheet which includes cost of a garage for storage, home office, accountant, etc etc etc,
I mark up 20% on my materials too. Van insurance is high, and on big sites you need the right card and training certs. Plus now they deduct the tax before payment and you have to claim it back later, which can hit the cash flow badly. That's why a lot of folks stick to domestics, including pretty much me.

Right now, like FreeD, I need a new van for similar reasons but cannot afford as much as him for the replacement. This means that when they bring in the congestion charge zones in most large towns in the south ( not long now) either I have to include for it in my rates or not bother quoting. Either way I'm going to lose some jobs.
 
Sorry Spud but I'm with FreeD and think his numbers are about right. Sole traders are in business, just ask HMRC. HMRC even give a help sheet which includes cost of a garage for storage, home office, accountant, etc etc etc,
I mark up 20% on my materials too. Van insurance is high, and on big sites you need the right card and training certs. Plus now they deduct the tax before payment and you have to claim it back later, which can hit the cash flow badly. That's why a lot of folks stick to domestics, including pretty much me.

Right now, like FreeD, I need a new van for similar reasons but cannot afford as much as him for the replacement. This means that when they bring in the congestion charge zones in most large towns in the south ( not long now) either I have to include for it in my rates or not bother quoting. Either way I'm going to lose some jobs.
Brimy mate I'm making a point.i turn way over vat threshold .freed makes out he makes £300-£400 a day every day.bolloxs
I make more than him and my overheads aint that much
 
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