Is this key good enough on S&C
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BigK
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Sand and cement. Usually 3sharp, 2 soft: 1 cement
Simon85
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What do you put on them now? Thankfully I haven't seen them on a job in a couple years or more, but they were an absolute b*****d.
Simple science. Dampen down enough slow the sucky sucky and it's fine...... if you don't dampen, then best cross your fingers that it dont turn to dust..... tbh I have never floated more then 1 or 2 walls on a job using gypsum (hardwall etc)
Probably s**t myself if I had a room to do with that stuff lol
How does it take more effort and time to run over a wall with a brush and provide a s**t key? The word mechanical key is used for a reason and looking at your brush technique it's not giving much of a mechanical key compared to using a float with nails in. If it works for you carry on but your way in my opinion is the lazy builders way and just to add, using the float also takes off any high bits that a brush will miss or just brush over. Also if you turned up and did that on one of my jobs you would be down the road xx
BigK
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As you suggest, the suction problems make it slow going, far quicker with hardwall etc where you can lash a good bit on before ruling off.
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Jesus Christ flynnyman READ my posts correctly. I RULE AND FLOAT MY WALLS PLUMB IE.STRAIGHT/LEVEL ETC. Then pull the brush on them. Don't get a nose bleed now thinking too hard about this 1 but it takes more time and effort because you ie "flynnyman float and mechanical key at the same time where as I float up first and then go back and apply a mechanical key. Your having an opinion about something that you have not tried. A sign of a narrow minded person......so "they say" night night,talk tomorrow
algeeman
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just hose walls down ....done plenty of huge playboy houses in s&c this way.
hail hail
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I've never seen it done here. Ever!
We use a brush for footpaths but its thicker than what looks to be used here.
BigK
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So have I algeeman, first 7/8 years of serving my time was done this way, but nowadays there are quicker and better ways to do it so why bother??
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Danny
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seen that done on footpaths before
Marshy
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The whole point of "rubbing up" sand cement is to consolidate the mortar together reducing cracks and filling in any hollows or slacks. The fact the nails or screws etc provide a key are a bonus. This is first year college stuff and tried and tested for years. The fact some rub either too wet or dry is the problem
Your the one having a nose bleed, I'm not getting into an argument with a man who rubs up with a sweeping brush after using a float Coz it's to easy. Save all the bullshit about something I've not tried and I'm narrow minded Coz I'm not, why the f**k would I go over a wall I've just floated with a brush? You've said yourself it takes longer so how the f**k is it better? Enough experienced people have commented on your way and your nearly on your own, I said if it suits you carry on but let's not try and rewrite the physics on what a mechanical key is its basics.
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hail hail
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I usually use the float over the footpaths, unless they are more than 1.2m long, then I have to use the bullfloat with a brush attached to it if the footpaths are wider. This was 2m wide! Tbh, this wasn't one of my greatest jobs. I set the timber out few days before, lined it from top to bottom and in the mean time, tge client walked all over my prep work and knocked all my timber. To make matters worse, i broke my two toes the night or two before
It takes longer because I'm willing to put the extra effort in to provide a better key for the client. Iv told you and all your "buddies" that iv tried both ways and for me the brush provides a better key. Your on about most of the experienced people have agreed with you bla bla bla but seriously I don't understand why ye think the surface would be too rough,wavey or humpy...as I said in a previous post it's about proper timing. If it provides a brutal surface/key which takes an extra effort to do you'd wonder why I dont just do it the faster easier better way as you say.....? I do it with the brush because it's BETTER. Try it once,just once, go on,for the hell of it. You say I'm nearly on my own with this method but does that mean there is only 1 way to skin a cat. Very narrow minded alright...very narrow minded tut tut. Anyone with pride in their work doesn't mind going the extra distance. Just give up with the argument and when you have tried it report back to me
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algeeman
It’s A Boy
after plastering i like to sweep my floors with a brush.
then to put in extra work i like to run a float around the floors after there spotless.
it takes more time and its pointless but....
i just like cleaning my floors up with a float.
if you like my strange method i'l like yours.
vfr12
MOTORC*NT
That is becoming a chapter of Harry Potter and I will get on my brooms too, since we are all honest with each other. You all can tank me later when you win the games!
Scratch coat with the fireblade
And gently before the sponge, just to take off all high spots and opened nicely for sponging ,with the pan european
Happy flying
Scratch coat with the fireblade
And gently before the sponge, just to take off all high spots and opened nicely for sponging ,with the pan european
Happy flying
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These I find are good to Go over just after I rub over with the float.That is becoming a chapter of Harry Potter and I will get on my brooms too, since we are all honest with each other. You all can tank me later when you win the games!
Scratch coat with the fireblade
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And gently before the sponge, just to take off all high spots and opened nicely for sponging ,with the pan european
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Happy flying
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vfr12
MOTORC*NT
I am sorry flynny, that's ugly and looks evil. Also is too hard, where my fireblade is loaded with ohlins
algeeman
It’s A Boy
do you keep 2 seperate brushes .......1 for sweeping your floors and 1 for sweeping your walls ??
have you copyrighted this idea ??
do you actually believe your own shite ??
if you have ticked yes too all 3 then maybe i do need help.....to understand im sharing my planet with aliens.
algeeman
It’s A Boy
i think 1stop sell these machines for floating walls ......
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algeeman
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Introducing the speedbrushView attachment 16794
should i get 2 labourers......1 for each brush ??
or will the speedbrush need 3 ??