We're currently having our house K rendered and it isn't going too well. The attached photo shows how the area behind our soil pipe has been dealt with. I feel the answer is pretty obvious but am I right to say this is not acceptable, and will compromise the wall pretty quickly? How should it be rectified? All comments gratefully received.
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We're currently having our house K rendered and it isn't going too well. The attached photo shows how the area behind our soil pipe has been dealt with. I feel the answer is pretty obvious but am I right to say this is not acceptable, and will compromise the wall pretty quickly? How should it be rectified? All comments gratefully received.
Mag
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they should of told you that it wouldn't be perfect behind the stack pipe . But to be fair there a nightmare to finish off well unless there taken off . The rest looks good .
Orangemachineman
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Show us more pictures as I'm convinced the rest of the house is poor if it's like that behind the pipe!!
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We are broadly happy with the rest of the job - not sure whether there is some patching around the front bay?
Danny
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you know what I think that is right
Yes you are spot on - the brackets were taken off to render and it leant against the wall as a result. When rendering no one bothered to move it back out to provide clearance
Dansouthcoast84
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i would patch it 1st to stop water ingress then as you said strap it tight to the wall to hide the patch
Orangemachineman
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The render around the air brick is shocking!!
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Jgreenplastering
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To be honest it's not the worst job been posted on here but they clearly have no pride or finesse in there work! There's minor misses and scuffs here and there but
what they've done with the pipe is just plain lazy.
It's obvious that would be on show once it was rendered!
Usually we include in our cost to renew the pipes but at the least we will disconnect them when top coating.
Were you warned of the issues if the pipes weren't taken off/replaced? Did you tell them you didn't want them taken off?
They look pretty new so it shouldn't of been an issue to take off for a day while it was top coated.
As dan says you should patch in at least and try and fix tight to the wall but that's just carelessness. I couldn't sleep knowing I'd left a job looking like that. It just spoils it.
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what they've done with the pipe is just plain lazy.
It's obvious that would be on show once it was rendered!
Usually we include in our cost to renew the pipes but at the least we will disconnect them when top coating.
Were you warned of the issues if the pipes weren't taken off/replaced? Did you tell them you didn't want them taken off?
They look pretty new so it shouldn't of been an issue to take off for a day while it was top coated.
As dan says you should patch in at least and try and fix tight to the wall but that's just carelessness. I couldn't sleep knowing I'd left a job looking like that. It just spoils it.
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Jgreenplastering
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A large local firm in Liverpool, recommended by three friends of friends who were very happy, and also by a house builder friend of mine. The main man presented really well in person too. We did as much homework as we could and no one had a bad word to say. We even spoke to k rend and they confirmed they were on the approved / recommended list. He has fallen ill part way through, which is part of the problem, but then started demanding payment of the final instalment (which contract clearly said wasn't due until satisfactory completion) when they were only 3/4 done and threatened to walk off job if we didn't pay. Since then we've just had his lads turning up but not the main man. Negotiated part payment of that sum to keep them going but wish we hadn't. We are really gutted. He has too much other work on and we are now low priority. The place has been left in a complete mess too.
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Jgreenplastering
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We're hearing more and more of firms who come recommended one way or another and are churning out poor work!
There's not much you can do no apart from try and get the boss round to show him. His subbies obviously don't care. That's the problem when you lose the reigns a bit and take on more than you can handle. I've been there but I was willing to put things right.
Try to speak to him and be firm but fair. If he thinks that's acceptable then cut your losses and look elsewhere to get it sorted. That's all I can advise sorry.
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Rigsby
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I am on the suspicion there is more to this story?
Ok the pipe was tight up to the wall and was rendered up to. But the rest looks ok, so they aee not too bad except the obvious. I would have liked to see this pipe with the scaffolding up? Something tells me there has been some ignorance going off here and the renderers are not putting someone else's ignoance right.
Ok the pipe was tight up to the wall and was rendered up to. But the rest looks ok, so they aee not too bad except the obvious. I would have liked to see this pipe with the scaffolding up? Something tells me there has been some ignorance going off here and the renderers are not putting someone else's ignoance right.
GrantyBoy
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Like owls said it's not the end of the world. It looks like they've done a decent enough job with the exception of the soil pipe - I don't know why that's happened it's all fine and well sitting here calling them lazy, careless or whatever but it's easy to criticise without knowing all the facts. Get them to patch it in and it will be fine.
themucky1
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GrantyBoy
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Big possibility. Just no way they would leave exposed basecoat like that.
You can actually see the indentation where the pipe has been before.
themucky1
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In fact look at the picture again and you can see where the socket on the bottom of the pipe has been on the wall the render is still on it too, look at the top coupler and the same there, the imprints can be seen so I wouldn't blame the renderers for that one, although it is bad practice
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keithuk
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So you dont think they could be putting a cover over it, like they did at the top ?
Thanks all. The renderers took the brackets off the soil pipe to base coat - it the pipe was therefore unsupported and left to lean in and rest on the wall. They pulled it away from the wall to do the base but then for some reason I don't understand when they came to top coat they just left it to continue resting against the wall instead of pulling it away again. When the bracket has been put back on the pipe is pulled out from the wall again and the indentations then become visible.
There is a other small area at the side of the extension where it was a bit of a pain (but not that bad) to chip off so rather than do so, they've just lashed base coat on top of the 60 year old pebbledash. So there are other examples of laziness / shoddy approach.
I haven't given the main man the opp to put it right yet - wanted to get some independent views first, but I'm going to put it to him. Only fear is that he kicks off again and I'm left with the porch and garage unfinished (and a load of tiles they broke on the extension roof unrepaired). I've been reallynreasonable and rational I assure you. Just feel like they're taking the piss as a result now.
There is a other small area at the side of the extension where it was a bit of a pain (but not that bad) to chip off so rather than do so, they've just lashed base coat on top of the 60 year old pebbledash. So there are other examples of laziness / shoddy approach.
I haven't given the main man the opp to put it right yet - wanted to get some independent views first, but I'm going to put it to him. Only fear is that he kicks off again and I'm left with the porch and garage unfinished (and a load of tiles they broke on the extension roof unrepaired). I've been reallynreasonable and rational I assure you. Just feel like they're taking the piss as a result now.
Yeah it's getting covered so not concerned about that
keithuk
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There are loads of guys on here that will go over old pebbledash !lol
Mag
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I've done it . 6 years ago in fact and it's still fine the bit that cracked was on new block work
GrantyBoy
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Won't get a better key than solid dash. Done hundreds of jobs over existing - no problems.
Another misconception by people who don't really know what they're talking about.
As I said at the very top, we're broadly happy with it - not saying the whole job is shite.
As for going over dash, it does make me wonder why we've paid for the rest of it to be chipped off then! But anyway, that's why I've asked for advice on here - not pretending I know all about it.
Sounds like that area can stay as is then?
