Loosening off socket fronts

[S a plastering]

Also water an electrics dont go together iv had a phone call 3 hrs after finishing a reskim water had got down back of a switch so had to go back an sort it not funny

 

[john liffen]

i loosen them off and ducttape the back, i leave them loose , tell customer its best for the wall to dry out before screwing them back

 

[S a plastering]

Yeah but it would trip out n easy to detect when ur mixer stops working

No it wouldn't that particular socket will still be live npnreason to trip out

 

[Danny]

I use to just loosen off but now I just take them off then use card to cover the boxes and skim away

 

[Deleted member 29624]

You can mate but when your making money out of it and somebody else property its a different matter

Didn't mean from a making money point of view just like when boarding easier to take them off and re attach than work around them

 

[paulf]

On a more serious note what c**t invented drywall boxes no matter new work or old they're looser than a whores knickers.

 

[dogstail]

You can still put a break in the ring somewhere along the line if the wires separate

Sorry if it appears ridiculously dumb, but what exactly does a break in the ring mean? I don’t mind if it’s a case of tripping or sockets not working etc. I was more worried in case it could lead to something more sinister, for example a fire.
That being said it’s a fairly new building house I’m talking about (last 10-15 years), so it’s not battered old wiring.

 

[S a plastering]

Sorry if it appears ridiculously dumb, but what exactly does a break in the ring mean? I don’t mind if it’s a case of tripping or sockets not working etc. I was more worried in case it could lead to something more sinister, for example a fire.
That being said it’s a fairly new building house I’m talking about (last 10-15 years), so it’s not battered old wiring.

In a ring main you have two reds and 2 blacks or brown wires if one of them separates and you don't know about it it puts a break to the next sockets in line

 

[paulf]

Sorry if it appears ridiculously dumb, but what exactly does a break in the ring mean? I don’t mind if it’s a case of tripping or sockets not working etc. I was more worried in case it could lead to something more sinister, for example a fire.
That being said it’s a fairly new building house I’m talking about (last 10-15 years), so it’s not battered old wiring.

Older wirings a different case, the red black stuff with the non insulated earth. The insulation on that stuff goes brittle and can cause problems not to mention the consumer units that can be of similar vintage.

 

[Rossi46]

It’s highly illegal to take socket fronts off! Do not do it. My mate is serving 15 years for a socket accident that electrocuted the family cat.

 

[carys]

Fcuk that lol built 2 extensions on my house going to start a double storey bathroom extension next year must be off my tits

U must have big family

 

[dogstail]

In a ring main you have two reds and 2 blacks or brown wires if one of them separates and you don't know about it it puts a break to the next sockets in line

I get you. Thanks so much for explaining anyway. I think a sparky was actually replacing a few of the socket fronts on this wall at least, would his testing indicate any problems/loose connections on the sockets he wasn’t touching as well or just the ones he was replacing?

 

[Deleted member 29624]

I get you. Thanks so much for explaining anyway. I think a sparky was actually replacing a few of the socket fronts on this wall at least, would his testing indicate any problems/loose connections on the sockets he wasn’t touching as well or just the ones he was replacing?

You been a spread for 12 years?

 

[dogstail]

You been a spread for 12 years?

Yeah. Mostly rendering these days though. Absolutely hopeless with anything electrical though!

 

[Retired Spread]

fronts off then tape a small freezer bag over the whole lot

 

[Deleted member 29624]

Yeah. Mostly rendering these days though. Absolutely hopeless with anything electrical though!

Next time you and spark are working round each other have a chat....basic knowledge of everything can't do any harm...not doing it just knowing a bit of what the other chap does

 

[dogstail]

Next time you and spark are working round each other have a chat....basic knowledge of everything can't do any harm...not doing it just knowing a bit of what the other chap does

Yeah I totally agree mate. Obviously I’d know how to put a loose wire back in etc. If spotted, just never had any interest in learning any of it though as like I say I’ve never touched anything electrical.

 

[Deleted member 29624]

Yeah I totally agree mate. Obviously I’d know how to put a loose wire back in etc. If spotted, just never had any interest in learning any of it though as like I say I’ve never touched anything electrical.

Sorry mate, didn't mean learn their job just have a chat, slip in the conversation if X happens are you ok to deal with it....I make small talk about other people's trades everytime I meet them and have picked up a lot of insights/tips

 

[S a plastering]

U must have big family

No my two sons have left home ones got his own house the other lived in South Africa I'm building it as an investment I live in a town centre an the prices have rocketed

 

[paulf]

I make small talk about other people's trades everytime I meet them and have picked up a lot of insights/tips

So.....whats the best lube......asking for a friend.

 

[Rossi46]

No my two sons have left home ones got his own house the other lived in South Africa I'm building it as an investment I live in a town centre an the prices have rocketed

So your building and selling up Ste?

 

[lurpak]

No I'm a spread mate 35 years in only did a elec course something I wanted to get into when I lived in Australia

traitor

 

[Deleted member 29624]

So.....whats the best lube......asking for a friend.

Spit is nature's lube......your welcome

 

[Wayners]

I remove but it a worry. I always use a socket tester though to check all is good. For £10 it's a must Here

 

[paulf]

Spit is nature's lube......your welcome

Cheers, knew you were the man to ask.

 

[S a plastering]

So your building and selling up Ste?

No pal future investment just too make more money really

 

[Cockney]

f**k me What a load of b*ll***s! How has loosening sockets got such a reaction??

 

[ChrispyUK]

f**k me What a load of b*ll***s! How has loosening sockets got such a reaction??

Triggered!

Like a social justice warrior

 

[jamesthefirst]

Ive come to the conclusion best to get customer to remove them completely taped up and tucked in the boxes. Just have to run an extension lead in from another room or the hall.

 

[Rossi46]

Worlds gone mad innit

 

[carys]

So your building and selling up Ste?

I've heard ther coming down and if this brexit goes ahead ther going to drop 30% time will tell

 

[Gavine The First]

Hi all,

Been plastering for over 12 year now and have only recently started worry profusely about removing socket fronts in order to plaster, and then replacing after the skim is complete.
Am I legally doing anything wrong in doing this? I Never ever touch electrics (change socket fronts etc.) however recently I’ve been worrying that if ever something went wrong, I.e some sort of fire weeks/months later, would I be held responsible in some way?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry if this sounds crazy in any way!

I think you worry too much mate .

 

[McBentLegs]

I always unscrew the fronts, wrap in plastic food bags, plaster, then re fit them.. if a wire pops out, which it regularly does just screw it back in. If RCD trips, just flick the switch back, not rocket science is it!

Same with light fittings, although sometimes have to remove them completely, if there's multiple wires going in I'll take a picture of it and stick connector block on until jobs done.

I've lost count how many times I've been electrocuted though, had whole wall go live when skimming where elecrician hadn't buried cables correctly, that was fun!

 

[dogstail]

I always unscrew the fronts, wrap in plastic food bags, plaster, then re fit them.. if a wire pops out, which it regularly does just screw it back in. If RCD trips, just flick the switch back, not rocket science is it!

Same with light fittings, although sometimes have to remove them completely, if there's multiple wires going in I'll take a picture of it and stick connector block on until jobs done.

I've lost count how many times I've been electrocuted though, had whole wall go live when skimming where elecrician hadn't buried cables correctly, that was fun!

Yeah I do/used to do exactly the same. I was just concerned about if there was a loose wire you hadn’t noticed and then re fitted? All the sockets on the loop were working after, so don’t think there could be a break, and also nothing tripped at all.

 

[JessThePlasterer]

Sometimes the wires pop out or the screws are too short.....fkn things.!!

Yeah and you don’t realise and you’ve had wet skim on the wall and then shock yourself wiping down the skirts !