theclemo
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I reckon u have more work then him
I reckon u have more work then him
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Why? I dont need to smash meters and I have the qualification (for what its worth ) nvq 2 and city & guilds
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Lol....not sure why I've pissed him off to be honest Keith.....but hey ho
Simon85
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Tbf Andy, I've had to work alongside men that have done nvq3 and been doing it 25-30years,and they are dog s**t. Can't hardly even coat. Skimming is laughably awful and don't even start about the beading. Don't know how the f**k someone could be at it that long and be useless. There are exceptions to every rule, if Lodan leaves work to decent standard, and customers are happy with him, then what odds how long he's been at it really? And no, I'm not a fan of the whole course thing, but it's the reality now. The man clearly wants to better himself, asks advice if he's not sure,seems to want to work to a good standard, so isn't like a chancer, we all had to start somewhere mate.
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Thanks simon agree with what you say....I never have and never would leave something bad cos that's not me....if it was bad I would go over it
theclemo
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Or get me
Andythespread
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Easy easy wind up
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I'm not sure you'd turn up....
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dieselpower
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Spot on Simon, the guys not hiding anything, he's on here for advice trying to improve himself and leave as good a job as he can. Whether he has done an apprenticeship or not is irrelevant, I know a lot of tradesmen over the whole building game that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire cos they are that useless ( but have served their time). Anyway, where was I? Oh aye, fuckoff Andy ya bell end give the guy a break..
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I knowWho gives a f**k Lodan! You are with friends here !
I'm always borderline on these posts if I'm 100% totally honest...
I like @Lodan and have some respect for him...
HOWEVER...in many respects I don't agree with these Micky mouse short term courses and the fact that someone can just contact such as my builder and pose as an experienced tradesman...
Its the potential home owner that I feel for that has thought that they are going with a competent tradesman because they have gone via a "my builder style site" whilst the reality is that they can be a complete charlatan.
I actually think that my builder should state the tradesman relevant PROVEN experience by actually checking and confirming all details.
Example being on Lodans my builder site profile IMO should state date of course etc and plastering experience. Then its left for the customer to decide based on feedback and how they conduct them selved from quoting.
Of course you get good and bad from courses to time served but that information IMO should at least be truthfull and let the customer decide.
If I was a customer and some tradesman was using my house to essentially practice on id be very upset tbh.
Zombie
I like @Lodan and have some respect for him...
HOWEVER...in many respects I don't agree with these Micky mouse short term courses and the fact that someone can just contact such as my builder and pose as an experienced tradesman...
Its the potential home owner that I feel for that has thought that they are going with a competent tradesman because they have gone via a "my builder style site" whilst the reality is that they can be a complete charlatan.
I actually think that my builder should state the tradesman relevant PROVEN experience by actually checking and confirming all details.
Example being on Lodans my builder site profile IMO should state date of course etc and plastering experience. Then its left for the customer to decide based on feedback and how they conduct them selved from quoting.
Of course you get good and bad from courses to time served but that information IMO should at least be truthfull and let the customer decide.
If I was a customer and some tradesman was using my house to essentially practice on id be very upset tbh.
Zombie
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To be honest zombie I agree with most of what you said...my builder is review based though and I have 30 reviews at 100% (again not a boast or dick wave) but all the site claims to be is a review based platform
Yep I can totaly 100% believe it pal I'm sure you do a cracking job...I knew from when you first started you'd make a success of it bud and have nothing but respect.
Its the principal of the sites and the fact that they choose to turn a blind eye that I disagree with!
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Like TripAdvisor for holidays not claiming to acredit them just offer the reviews
dieselpower
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Works both ways Zombie. I have seen the mess that "tradesmen" have left in some houses and been paid in full. Maybe a pay after your happy system should be put in place, however I don't know who would police that. At the end of the day it's up to the customer. Who knows ??
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Sorry zombie posted mine before yours
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The problem with these threads is they always get lost in the bickering....the point of the thread was to let fellow spreads know (weather I'm one or not) that use these site and the internet to your advantage, no point sitting waiting for the phone to ring....you can make it ring without selling your soul or accepting £80 a day and the customers on these sites are just nice regular people
Simon85
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Yea like I said, I've seen work from apparent tradesmen, and in all seriousness If it was me in charge, I wouldn't have then anywhere near a trowel. Utter useless.. How they made a career out it I can't understand it. I can't understand how there work was never pulled either, really does boggle my mind lol
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Dont say that zombie....you keep me down to earth
Tinytom
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On domestics if the job is done to a standard the customer is happy with then who gives a f**k about quals, yeah we all know you need it for site work but on domestic jobs such as the Ines you'd pull from mybuilder etc why does it matter? As long as the tradesman gets a crust and the punter is happy then jobs a good un. The main thing Iv learnt on domestics over 16 years being in the trade, sheet up well leave the job spotless and have some banter with them they're happy
Davy sned
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Nothing wrong with mybuilder I used it when I moved to a new area now the people and their friends phone whenever they need something done and the reviews get you more work and you can make as much on domestics as you would bursting your bag on a site with a non plastering site agent saying you've done a nice job so who's the dummy the spread or the non spread at least working with private customer if you do a good job they will tell one person if you do a bad one they will tell ten if your on a site no one knows and they just ramble on to the next site so in the end in your local area word off mouth is your money
jamesthefirst
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I advertise 50 years experience, they always comment how well I look! 
I say 30 and they ask "what did I do before?"I advertise 50 years experience, they always comment how well I look!
Gibbo
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How long you been pretending
hail hail
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Proper qualifications, is that like them bits of paper one gets after spending months/years at a desk writing useless shite about everything under the sun. Or proper qualifications as in being on site years and learning all the tricks of the trade. Me, i have all sorts of qualifications, sadly i just dont have my papers!
As for qualifications, i know this fella whos qualified in a trade, hes even mentioned he has the papers to teach people. As for his work when i was working with him, i swear to f**k and this is no bullshit, i honestly was left scratching my head saying what in the name of good f**k is that. Was even thinking how could he even manage that when all he needed to do was this and that. Got pulled by clients when on jobs(all his side) and it left me thinking, papers, f**k papers because they dont mean jack shite out in the real world!
Im not saying Lodan is top notch at his work because i havent seen it but any guy who goes sleeps in a van to do a course better his and his kids life, gets out there and trys and is gathering up all these reviews then i take my hat off to him.
So as for your papers OP, see the next time your on site talking shite, well my friend, you know what to do with them papers
hail hail
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I say 30 and they ask "what did I do before?"
This is no joke. Ive a cousin whos in his late 20s and when advertising his plastering, he says over 70years experience
His father is at it 35 years and his grand father was at it his whole life aswell. He thinks because his granda passed his knowledge on to his father and then onto him, he can advertise 70years experience 
hstoke
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I've used it myself and got a lot of work off it good to drop on itright i know this is a contentious subject but just wanted to share my experience a bit....went to a quote today (the nicotine stained one
jamesthefirst
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Over the years I've had the odd note and emails etc saying nice things about my work which I keep a few of in a folder and show to new people I've not worked for before. It all helps even if you have been recommended.
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Cheers hail hailProper qualifications, is that like them bits of paper one gets after spending months/years at a desk writing useless shite about everything under the sun. Or proper qualifications as in being on site years and learning all the tricks of the trade. Me, i have all sorts of qualifications, sadly i just dont have my papers!
As for qualifications, i know this fella whos qualified in a trade, hes even mentioned he has the papers to teach people. As for his work when i was working with him, i swear to f**k and this is no bullshit, i honestly was left scratching my head saying what in the name of good f**k is that. Was even thinking how could he even manage that when all he needed to do was this and that. Got pulled by clients when on jobs(all his side) and it left me thinking, papers, f**k papers because they dont mean jack shite out in the real world!
Im not saying Lodan is top notch at his work because i havent seen it but any guy who goes sleeps in a van to do a course better his and his kids life, gets out there and trys and is gathering up all these reviews then i take my hat off to him.
So as for your papers OP, see the next time your on site talking shite, well my friend, you know what to do with them papers
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Spazz...lol....I bet scope loved it when that caught on