NO BULLSHYTE JUST ANSWERS

[kirk johnstone]

sugar makes it set much harder, we can continue Q&A tomorrow if you like but i need some sleep now

Your wrong it was used a retarder

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when i get home i will quote thw whole page from millers book to you!

although we might both be right because correct me if i am wrong but if a mix is r******d then it will take longer to cure resulting in a much harder set?

 

[beddy]

kirk, why are you in a hotel with the mrs, and on this forum?

 

[flynnyman]

sugar makes it set much harder, we can continue Q&A tomorrow if you like but i need some sleep now

Your wrong it was used a retarder

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when i get home i will quote thw whole page from millers book to you!

although we might both be right because correct me if i am wrong but if a mix is r******d then it will take longer to cure resulting in a much harder set?

I am right its used as a retarder if it sets harder thats to do with the strength of the mix so nernernernerne

and yeh why are you on the forum in a hotel?

 

[kirk johnstone]

we go away most weekends but we have a baby so we cant really go out on the pees. so thats why am here
we are going out today.... were is the best place to go in york? any recommendations lads?

p.s. my no bulshyte section will be ace!!!!!! ;D

 

[beddy]

you should be getting jiggy, not telling everyone about your 3:1!!

 

[kirk johnstone]

she is suckin whilst i is typin baby! ;D

 

[PhilPlaster]

You need to get out more mate!

 

[barryed]

I have never been to york. You could go to the castle im sure your missus would love that

 

[goody]

flintster have you ever considered mastermind butty??...........maybe that would tap the well.....and your chosen subject is........plastering............ok mr flynnyman plastering it is....start the clock.......'what is a cyma recta?'..'ha ha it's a.......

 

[user_removed]

i think it would be good to have a world cup section just while its on then the lads on here can talk together about the footy without clogging the plastering section

 

[irish_spread]

i think it would be good to have a world cup section just while its on then the lads on here can talk together about the footy without clogging the plastering section

Dont worry, they wont be chatting about it for long ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[beddy]

surely thats what the talk about anything section is for?

 

[church]

Done

 

[simplybesty]

just been offered 8 legs of venison for £40, do you think that's 2 dear ;D ;D

 

[church]

LOL not bad simps

 

[si]

when you ask what the two types of cyma-recta are, i take it you wanna know there from roman and greek origin. roman mouldings are from parts of a circle, and greek mouldings are parts of an ellipse

And as flnnyman states sugar was used as a retarder, and doesnt overly effect the strength of the finish thats done in the mix with water content. Its the same as using tri sodium citrate in your mix as the retarder

 

[phippsy333]

Its all greek to me ;D

 

[church]

lol

 

[irish_spread]

i read somewhere once that the roman and greeks went into jobs and asked customers to cut the middle man out who got the original jobs..and ask the customers to go with them instead at a cheaper price.... no-wonder those greeks and roman fell in the end.......NO WAY TO DO BUSINESS is it si .....in fact its pretty low don't u think!!!!
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me thinks all is not well

 

[morterman]

Si a mate of yours then Phippsy
Mo.

 

[flynnyman]

when you ask what the two types of cyma-recta are, i take it you wanna know there from roman and greek origin. roman mouldings are from parts of a circle, and greek mouldings are parts of an ellipse

And as flnnyman states sugar was used as a retarder, and doesnt overly effect the strength of the finish thats done in the mix with water content. Its the same as using tri sodium citrate in your mix as the retarder

a man after my own heart xx

 

[kirk johnstone]

york is a great place, just been walking around and its lovely, looks like there is loads of work up hear too

 

[kirk johnstone]

just added a poll, please vote guys.

 

[barryed]

I'm not happy i wanted to vote obama!

 

[kirk johnstone]

Me thinks misidentification oops sorry my bad

ERM wot you on about mate?

 

[kirk johnstone]

when you ask what the two types of cyma-recta are, i take it you wanna know there from roman and greek origin. roman mouldings are from parts of a circle, and greek mouldings are parts of an ellipse

And as flnnyman states sugar was used as a retarder, and doesnt overly effect the strength of the finish thats done in the mix with water content. Its the same as using tri sodium citrate in your mix as the retarder

a man after my own heart xx

just been checking in my books and there is actually three types of cyma recta and three types of cyma reversa/ogee but there is no mention of any names that separate the, only how to set them out.

on the subject of sugar, yes it can be used as a retarder and YES IT DOSE MAKE TH MIX STRONGER! Ref: PLASTERING PLAIN & DECORATIVE by W MILLER published by DONHEAD page 52-54 its all there flinster in black and white.
oh an its quite interesting, there is a part that states if you add a certian amount of sugar to water then the water will hold 14 times as much lime.

i was going to copy whole page for you but its late and i cant be bothered.

can you please tell me the names of the cymas as it is starting to bug me that i cant find them any where?

 

[kirk johnstone]

They could put it in the members section with everything else!!! ;D

it would probably be best in the new to plastering section were beginners could get info without being scared off. but every one could benefit from this because not one person knows everything there is to plastering. someone who is an expert in one area ie fibrous plastering might want to know something simple about external stucco or vice versa do you know what i mean mate

wooooooooooooooow talk for yourself my friend i am an expert in plastering and know everything coz i was taught everything do you not know i am advanced craft, skills tested and british gypsum award winning plasterer 1990?

They could put it in the members section with everything else!!! ;D

it would probably be best in the new to plastering section were beginners could get info without being scared off. but every one could benefit from this because not one person knows everything there is to plastering. someone who is an expert in one area ie fibrous plastering might want to know something simple about external stucco or vice versa do you know what i mean mate

wooooooooooooooow talk for yourself my friend i am an expert in plastering and know everything coz i was taught everything do you not know i am advanced craft, skills tested and british gypsum award winning plasterer 1990?

ok smart arse why did they used to add sugar to portland cement in the 1800's and when was eml first invented? oh and what ratio do you set a pediment in relation to the columns that hold it up?

they added sugar as a retarder lath was invented around 1967/68 and i take it your talkin about the golden ratio?

another one from the big book, metal lathing was invented by EDMUND CARTWRIGHT and he obtained a patent in 1797.

been around for hundreds of years that stuff mate ;D

 

[kirk johnstone]

were is flynnyman anyway? thought he might have something to say on this???? ;D

 

[flynnyman]

were is flynnyman anyway? thought he might have something to say on this???? ;D

just got on the pc glad your pining for me xxxxx

The answer has already been given for the cyma reversa and recta, one is based on a circle the other is based on a segment of a circle, no different name just different types xxxx

 

[kirk johnstone]

were is flynnyman anyway? thought he might have something to say on this???? ;D

just got on the pc glad your pining for me xxxxx

The answer has already been given for the cyma reversa and recta, one is based on a circle the other is based on a segment of a circle, no different name just different types xxxx

yes but you asked for the names? so what are they?

 

[flynnyman]

were is flynnyman anyway? thought he might have something to say on this???? ;D

just got on the pc glad your pining for me xxxxx

The answer has already been given for the cyma reversa and recta, one is based on a circle the other is based on a segment of a circle, no different name just different types xxxx

yes but you asked for the names? so what are they?

Kirk i will tell you how the forum works, you type something i type something so the text is always there to view or back yourself up if someone says you said this or that, i actual said "Ive asked this question a few times and its never been answered there are two types of cyma rectas what are they?", seriously it takes 2 secs just to look

 

[kirk johnstone]

oh i see, i thought you knew and you wer testing me, well in that case i dont think they have different names