Plastering Charges v brick laying fees

[Liam Smith]

hi
Is there a minimum fee that plasterers should be charging when I hear of some plasters willing to accept £150 for a days work when if we compare a bricklayer charge of £1 per brick and £1.75 per block. Earning twice that of a plasterer.
And I see on social media that the industry is demanding a minimum charge for bricklaying gathering pace.

Industry thoughts ??

thanks

 

[Spudknit]

hi
Is there a minimum fee that plasterers should be charging when I hear of some plasters willing to accept £150 for a days work when if we compare a bricklayer charge of £1 per brick and £1.75 per block. Earning twice that of a plasterer.
And I see on social media that the industry is demanding a minimum charge for bricklaying gathering pace.

Industry thoughts ??

thanks

Thing is there's too many fucktards in our game to demand a minimum price.courses have determined this.there won't do 3 day courses or a few week courses for bricklayers then let them loose like there do plastering

 

[The Hobo]

dont go with the flow m8 charge what u think your worth

 

[Bartholomew]

Thing is there's too many fucktards in our game to demand a minimum price.courses have determined this.there won't do 3 day courses or a few week courses for bricklayers then let them loose like there do plastering

They do, 4 week nvq's available for bricklaying.

 

[John j]

hi
Is there a minimum fee that plasterers should be charging when I hear of some plasters willing to accept £150 for a days work when if we compare a bricklayer charge of £1 per brick and £1.75 per block. Earning twice that of a plasterer.
And I see on social media that the industry is demanding a minimum charge for bricklaying gathering pace.

Industry thoughts ??

thanks

I think way things are going minimum wage needs to go up to 200 a day or people.will be starving . Meaning factory workers . Cost of living at min is crazy.

 

[limeplastering]

hi
Is there a minimum fee that plasterers should be charging when I hear of some plasters willing to accept £150 for a days work when if we compare a bricklayer charge of £1 per brick and £1.75 per block. Earning twice that of a plasterer.
And I see on social media that the industry is demanding a minimum charge for bricklaying gathering pace.

Industry thoughts ??

thanks

Problem with plastering is if lads can skim they are a plasterer even tho they can’t float render or screed.
If your a bricklayer you can either lay bricks or not.
In my opinion people who can render and float should be on a minimum of £250 a day because the is lack of people who can do it

 

[Ritch]

Problem with plastering is if lads can skim they are a plasterer even tho they can’t float render or screed.
If your a bricklayer you can either lay bricks or not.
In my opinion people who can render and float should be on a minimum of £250 a day because the is lack of people who can do it

£250 a day rendering lol. That’a dug shitt money for rendering. Thought u lime boys earn the big bucks.

 

[Vincey]

Being happy at work is more important than what the Bricky is on mate , we are the happiest tradesman alive

 

[essexandy]

Problem with plastering is if lads can skim they are a plasterer even tho they can’t float render or screed.
If your a bricklayer you can either lay bricks or not.
In my opinion people who can render and float should be on a minimum of £250 a day because the is lack of people who can do it

That's simply not true. I can lay bricks and blocks, but I wouldn't want to try a spiral chimney or whatever.
Throwing blockwork or face brickwork down on site building is no more than someone that can d&d and skim IMO.
I've seen plenty of young lads doing it within no time on site
over the years.

 

[John j]

Being happy at work is more important than what the Bricky is on mate , we are the happiest tradesman alive

I once had brickies lad come up to me and say I should of been a plasterer . I asked why . He said cause you lot are a laugh there miserable bastards

 

[Spudknit]

£250 a day rendering lol. That’a dug shitt money for rendering. Thought u lime boys earn the big bucks.

Give over twiggy you've never seen £250 in a day...like EVER

 

[essexandy]

Being happy at work is more important than what the Bricky is on mate , we are the happiest tradesman alive

You're really not the full ticket Pete.

 

[raggles]

That's simply not true. I can lay bricks and blocks, but I wouldn't want to try a spiral chimney or whatever.
Throwing blockwork or face brickwork down on site building is no more than someone that can d&d and skim IMO.
I've seen plenty of young lads doing it within no time on site
over the years.

I've seen labourers sent to do test panels on sites where the min price for a house was 300k ( and I'm going back pre 2008) and they have been signed off by the architect and site agent. The brickies could not believe their luck when they saw the standard that was deemed ok.
I've also got an old mate who's a manager for a bricklaying contractor who regularly had to go on sites to show them how to set out manholes,fireplaces and chimneys

 

[MakeItSmooth]

That's simply not true. I can lay bricks and blocks, but I wouldn't want to try a spiral chimney or whatever.
Throwing blockwork or face brickwork down on site building is no more than someone that can d&d and skim IMO.
I've seen plenty of young lads doing it within no time on site
over the years.

This always fries my brain:

 

[Deleted member 49960]

Being happy at work is more important than what the Bricky is on mate , we are the happiest tradesman alive

 

[limeplastering]

£250 a day rendering lol. That’a dug shitt money for rendering. Thought u lime boys earn the big bucks.

I only really work on price. I’m talking about normal plastering like hardwall not lime

 

[Deleted member 49960]

That's simply not true. I can lay bricks and blocks, but I wouldn't want to try a spiral chimney or whatever.
Throwing blockwork or face brickwork down on site building is no more than someone that can d&d and skim IMO.
I've seen plenty of young lads doing it within no time on site
over the years.

That's funny my brickwork looks like a spiral chimney !!

 

[limeplastering]

That's simply not true. I can lay bricks and blocks, but I wouldn't want to try a spiral chimney or whatever.
Throwing blockwork or face brickwork down on site building is no more than someone that can d&d and skim IMO.
I've seen plenty of young lads doing it within no time on site
over the years.

If your a bricklayer you will be lucky to get 10 months in out of the year.
If your a sparky or a gas man you have to pay for regulations and if your a chippy you need 10k of tools.
If you skim on site you need a bucket hawk trowel and a 100 quid mixer. Painters get more then site plasterers now ffs

 

[essexandy]

This always fries my brain:

Yes I've seen that. Bloody amazing!

 

[Trppy]

hi
Is there a minimum fee that plasterers should be charging when I hear of some plasters willing to accept £150 for a days work when if we compare a bricklayer charge of £1 per brick and £1.75 per block. Earning twice that of a plasterer.
And I see on social media that the industry is demanding a minimum charge for bricklaying gathering pace.

Industry thoughts ??

thanks

In my opinion both are proper trades and should be paid proper but there’s a lot a people who think skimming on board is being a plasterer in the same way people think laying bricks between two profiles is being bricklayer what i will say is being a chippy has changed a lot in the last 25 years in my opinion that’s virtually a semi skilled trade with all the gear the have

 

[Vincey]

I once had brickies lad come up to me and say I should of been a plasterer . I asked why . He said cause you lot are a laugh there miserable bastards

Jealous mate that’s what it is we are the envy of all the trades , heads held higher than all of them

 

[Elite exteriors]

Problem with plastering is if lads can skim they are a plasterer even tho they can’t float render or screed.
If your a bricklayer you can either lay bricks or not.
In my opinion people who can render and float should be on a minimum of £250 a day because the is lack of people who can do it

Agree completely most so called plasterers you meet s**t scared of floating or rendering because they can't do it and really only want to skim

 

[essexandy]

Jealous mate that’s what it is we are the envy of all the trades , heads held higher than all of them

Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo.

 

[MakeItSmooth]

what i will say is being a chippy has changed a lot in the last 25 years in my opinion that’s virtually a semi skilled trade with all the gear the have

Steady on.

 

[Stevieo]

Thing is there's too many fucktards in our game to demand a minimum price.courses have determined this.there won't do 3 day courses or a few week courses for bricklayers then let them loose like there do plastering

Intensive Bricklaying Course - 5 days - YTA Training

Intensive bricklaying course aimed at you leaving with the skills to complete your own projects such as a BBQ, garden wall or garage. YTA, Bradford.

www.ytatraining.com

 

[owls]

In my opinion both are proper trades and should be paid proper but there’s a lot a people who think skimming on board is being a plasterer in the same way people think laying bricks between two profiles is being bricklayer what i will say is being a chippy has changed a lot in the last 25 years in my opinion that’s virtually a semi skilled trade with all the gear the have

All trades have gone that way, look at plumbing with push fitings very little soldering these days, and you can do 5 day courses for that.
im apprentice served but apprenticeships are few and far between, so I suppose you move with the times. If someone’s good at skimming and makes a good living from it and takes pride in there work, good luck to them, it’s more money and pick of jobs for those that can do it all. I haven’t done any plastering for getting on 10 years plus im a fibrous hand and that’s the same, just rendering for me now.

 

[owls]

I've seen labourers sent to do test panels on sites where the min price for a house was 300k ( and I'm going back pre 2008) and they have been signed off by the architect and site agent. The brickies could not believe their luck when they saw the standard that was deemed ok.
I've also got an old mate who's a manager for a bricklaying contractor who regularly had to go on sites to show them how to set out manholes,fireplaces and chimneys

I work on new build sites, some of the standards and corner cutting is shocking.

 

[owls]

Problem with plastering is if lads can skim they are a plasterer even tho they can’t float render or screed.
If your a bricklayer you can either lay bricks or not.
In my opinion people who can render and float should be on a minimum of £250 a day because the is lack of people who can do it

I’d say every tradesman should be on that kind of money, if your self employed and running a business.

 

[Bartholomew]

I’d say every tradesman should be on that kind of money, if your self employed and running a business.

Think people forget there's a difference between being self employed and making a wage and having a business and making a wage and that business also making a profit

 

[MakeItSmooth]

I work on new build sites, some of the standards and corner cutting is shocking.

During the past few days, Freeview ch. 26 'Yesterday' have been showing old re-runs of the series 'Fred Dibnah's Building of Britain'.

Fred must be turning in his grave at the appalling standards housing developments are built to these days.

 

[Brimstone]

This always fries my brain:

Don't think that's regular Uk type mortar - more like tile addy/cement. our mortar wouldn't hold a brick up that well unsupported. That's why we use formers.

 

[Brimstone]

This always fries my brain:

Love the way he trims bricks with the trowel, never seem to see that now, I used to be quite good at that, and the bricks don't cut the same way these days either.