Price increase for all!! horah!

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timeservedspread said:
Rumour has it there is about to be a boom in construction and you lot are gonna be reaping the rewards?
Unfortunately your not!
Why? I hear you ask,
let me explain.
Example:
5 years ago a lady was paying 30.00 for her nails at a beauty salon but a new salon opened and advertised nails for 20.00 then an other salon advertised 15.00?
Then all 3 salons realised it was impossible to increase prices again!
Now they are stuck with a set price because of there own stupidity, does my example ring any bells?
Anyone doing domestic plastering and thinking they can increase prices is welcome to give it a go, forget it.
Plasterers have no governing body who will step in and say enough is enough, because the trade is full of amateurs.
I've been in this game a quarter century and I know what I'm talking about.
This situation has been created by a new growth industry called "plastering course centre's" this is the end result of these chancers training chancers and flooding the market with chancers!!!
The only guys that will shout me down will be the short cut course chancers?
I really couldn't give a **** what you clowns have to say which is why I never respond to anything they say.
Any of you lot that "got into" spreading as a get rich quick gimmick are in for a nasty shock, few years down the line when your hands and shoulders and knees don't work properly and hurt like hell, you'll try and increase your rates because plastering has took a toll on your health and you deserve more money.
Guess what?
Your gonna realise you can't because golden balls plastering course is still churning out chancers!
This trade is fried and you can thank the very same people who promised you an earning potential of a few grand a week, sad but very very true my deluded friends.
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Im a short cut chancer as you say and im doing just fine maybe ots becausr youve lost it becausr your old. Stop whinging charge what you want if you get it then good for you if not better luck next time if you want some work im in london and email bwplastering [email protected] kisses from the short cut chancer
 
Tell us more, Ryan. I'm all ears. Just sitting in van waiting for landlord to ducking turn up.
 
flynnyman said:
How do you think it should work and what type of plasterers should be allowed in it?
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anyone whos work is to top standard that has been seen by a group of professional spreads who know the game inside out who either accept or dont whether your workmanship is to a set standard
 
at least then you know the spread on your job has been checked by other good spreads who rate his work and is not some **** who says he can plaster when he hasnt got a clue, how the **** you get something like that going tho got no idea
 
I could travel up and down the country checking people's work and speaking to customers then you get the sticker with your unique number oh and I need to see your quals :)
 
flynnyman said:
I could travel up and down the country checking people's work and speaking to customers then you get the sticker with your unique number oh and I need to see your quals :)
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yep you and danny could start something on the forum "federation of T.P.F" lol , charge £10 annual fee to members to cover costs sure most good spreads would jump on board coz it will set a standard for plastering
 
rob88 said:
yep you and danny could start something on the forum "federation of T.P.F" lol , charge £10 annual fee to members to cover costs sure most good spreads would jump on board coz it will set a standard for plastering
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I like this idea how much will I have to bribe you to sign me off hahaha
 
yeh depends on how many people would be interested in it a few hundred people would be pointless but good few thousand even at £20 annually might be worth doing you would soon get sponsors coming in then
 
bennyspreadmore well done. sense from someone. ryanwart you knock me mate for talking about quals but then start saying yu will set up a fedaration but you need quals to join. lol.
 
iv'e been skimming a chimney breast today mate when i get in and read through these on nearly all you are having a go at me on here all along the day. what have you done today but be on here and you put me down mate. nobjockey
 
look mate i worked in bargain booze before i got the money from my house to do the coarse and was on minimum wages. now i went and made something of myself and it is working and i hope to earn good wgaes but all i get is daft replys from people. i do'nt care to be honest so long as i keep getting the money i came here to learn some tips rather than be attacked. maybe some of my questions are for deginners but we all learn somewere and if some old plasterers ca'nt more monet than i can then whose problem is that. i do'nt know why people moan
 
Should of stretched to some spelling lessons :RpS_laugh:....... fair play for making a change in your life though :RpS_thumbup:
 
thanks mate. i can spell if i type slowly. see:RpS_biggrin: going to start another thread and hope i just get good replys like the last two instead of some tool saying i am polish lol. thanks mate
 
Bennyspreadsmore said:
Im a short cut chancer as you say and im doing just fine maybe ots becausr youve lost it becausr your old. Stop whinging charge what you want if you get it then good for you if not better luck next time if you want some work im in london and email bwplastering [email protected] kisses from the short cut chancer
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whats age got to do with anything?
 
timeservedspread said:
Rumour has it there is about to be a boom in construction and you lot are gonna be reaping the rewards?
Unfortunately your not!
Why? I hear you ask,
let me explain.
Example:
5 years ago a lady was paying 30.00 for her nails at a beauty salon but a new salon opened and advertised nails for 20.00 then an other salon advertised 15.00?
Then all 3 salons realised it was impossible to increase prices again!
Now they are stuck with a set price because of there own stupidity, does my example ring any bells?
Anyone doing domestic plastering and thinking they can increase prices is welcome to give it a go, forget it.
Plasterers have no governing body who will step in and say enough is enough, because the trade is full of amateurs.
I've been in this game a quarter century and I know what I'm talking about.
This situation has been created by a new growth industry called "plastering course centre's" this is the end result of these chancers training chancers and flooding the market with chancers!!!
The only guys that will shout me down will be the short cut course chancers?
I really couldn't give a **** what you clowns have to say which is why I never respond to anything they say.
Any of you lot that "got into" spreading as a get rich quick gimmick are in for a nasty shock, few years down the line when your hands and shoulders and knees don't work properly and hurt like hell, you'll try and increase your rates because plastering has took a toll on your health and you deserve more money.
Guess what?
Your gonna realise you can't because golden balls plastering course is still churning out chancers!
This trade is fried and you can thank the very same people who promised you an earning potential of a few grand a week, sad but very very true my deluded friends.
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Its been said on here before it depends on what part of the country you live , if there's a demand for decent plasterers you'll make a good living if you live in an area where its flooded with skimmers, chances, six month wonders etc it wiil get tougher , Im from Merseyside and i went to price a job last week for a young lad who has just bought a house an old lady had lived there and hadn't touched it in years ,it had turned ceiling through out ,he ripped the picture rails off the skirts too and rewired it , it was a mess ,plaster hanging off the wall, so the whole house needed plastering, gave him a price by email, and this is the truth ,its the first time I have ever chased up a quote and he said ive got someone a bit cheaper , so I said how far off was I , he said he was £1400 cheaper, I said theres something wrong if he can do it for that,he said well the joiner said its a good price.People on here will say its how you market yourself but I know good spreads , over thirty years experience who are not busy
 
bobspread said:
Its been said on here before it depends on what part of the country you live , if there's a demand for decent plasterers you'll make a good living if you live in an area where its flooded with skimmers, chances, six month wonders etc it wiil get tougher , Im from Merseyside and i went to price a job last week for a young lad who has just bought a house an old lady had lived there and hadn't touched it in years ,it had turned ceiling through out ,he ripped the picture rails off the skirts too and rewired it , it was a mess ,plaster hanging off the wall, so the whole house needed plastering, gave him a price by email, and this is the truth ,its the first time I have ever chased up a quote and he said ive got someone a bit cheaper , so I said how far off was I , he said he was £1400 cheaper, I said theres something wrong if he can do it for that,he said well the joiner said its a good price.People on here will say its how you market yourself but I know good spreads , over thirty years experience who are not busy
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im in merseyside too not great here at the moment being a spread
 
bobspread said:
Its been said on here before it depends on what part of the country you live , if there's a demand for decent plasterers you'll make a good living if you live in an area where its flooded with skimmers, chances, six month wonders etc it wiil get tougher , Im from Merseyside and i went to price a job last week for a young lad who has just bought a house an old lady had lived there and hadn't touched it in years ,it had turned ceiling through out ,he ripped the picture rails off the skirts too and rewired it , it was a mess ,plaster hanging off the wall, so the whole house needed plastering, gave him a price by email, and this is the truth ,its the first time I have ever chased up a quote and he said ive got someone a bit cheaper , so I said how far off was I , he said he was £1400 cheaper, I said theres something wrong if he can do it for that,he said well the joiner said its a good price.People on here will say its how you market yourself but I know good spreads , over thirty years experience who are not busy
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It was like this in London 09/10 , top brickies driving buses
 
DavetheDog said:
iv'e been skimming a chimney breast today mate when i get in and read through these on nearly all you are having a go at me on here all along the day. what have you done today but be on here and you put me down mate. nobjockey
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So what did you do for the rest of the day!

If you chancers consider tarting up a chimney breast a days work, then I have nothing to fear.
I have followed course clowns around & tidied up their shoddy mess in the past, and have been paid a princely sum to do so! :RpS_thumbup:

But on the whole, my customers & contacts are aware of the desperados out there, avoid them like a dose of the clap, and not too much has changed.
 
You would be surprised at how few people who do a course actually make it out and survive in the real world as a spread...

The op sounds a bit bitter to me and all my years I have never been asked for my qualifications....

Also if people think doing 2 years at college is a sign of a good spread then you are in for a shock.... I have seen some of the uks best college leavers and there were only a couple I would have given the chance to work for me....

Nothing beats being good... some are naturally good plasterers...

Also being a self employed plasterer is not totally about being good its about being super and also being able to run a business...

There have been jobs that I could not have done but hired in help to do it I still was the one that got the reputation not tye guys who did the job... why? Because it was my business...

I never tried to win jobs on price because if I did then I probably did not want the job anyway.

If your a **** hot spread but cant make a living get on the books and do your trade and you will be happy but leave the running of a business to those that can do it...

I think at least @owls will agree :-)

Anyway just my 2pence worth :-)

Danny
 
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We'll put Danny I'm in north wales seen a lot bad jobs that I priced didn't get then asked to put bad work right .pay cheap pay twice
 
Getting back onto the topic of this thread,I was on site yesterday and got talkin to an estate agent who was there. I asked how are things and are houses selling? He said its gone totally nuts! One of his workmates got 12 houses sold (off plan) in one morning! So the house builder put up the prices of the units 20 grand! and they are still selling! So why do we find ourselves still busting our balls for out of date prices? I think this price increase will take a long while to filter down,if at all.
Yours sincerely, Whiskey wiv one of them pretty umbrella things in and a F*ckin cherry on a cocktail stick! Allright?
 
As long as mugs will work there nuts off for poor rates, then why are builders or developers going to pay lads any more.
 
brickys prices are rising around here one firm is now paying 450 per 1000 i have no idea about plastering on site because everyone i know ditched it
 
One of the largest contractors director in the north west told me this morning he is constantly trying to push up the rates with house builders.....their response to this was "were not paying any more until you sort your lads out, we aint paying more for rough plasterers."
i couldnt stop laughing.
any excuse to go in cheap and pay shite rates.
 
algeeman said:
One of the largest contractors director in the north west told me this morning he is constantly trying to push up the rates with house builders.....their response to this was "were not paying any more until you sort your lads out, we aint paying more for rough plasterers."
i couldnt stop laughing.
any excuse to go in cheap and pay shite rates.
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I could guess who it is but it could be any one of three
 
algeeman said:
One of the largest contractors director in the north west told me this morning he is constantly trying to push up the rates with house builders.....their response to this was "were not paying any more until you sort your lads out, we aint paying more for rough plasterers."
i couldnt stop laughing.
any excuse to go in cheap and pay shite rates.
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But the fact is they are still employing them lol like I said in a previous post some site spreads are rough
 
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