Rendered Borders

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Seeing more and more render jobs with borders rendered around the windows and doors.

Anybody do this ?? Do you just use stop beads or are they designed as border beads ?

Just curious and not sure if i like it but might have a bash in the future

Cheers

Arti

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easy enough render as normal nothing on the reveals then angle and stop beads on top
well thats how ive done it
 
Arti said:
Seeing more and more render jobs with borders rendered around the windows and doors.

Anybody do this ?? Do you just use stop beads or are they designed as border beads ?

Just curious and not sure if i like it but might have a bash in the future

Cheers

Arti

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Have you got any examples?

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I always, always do stop beads! Hate when I see the render over the frames, especially on Ewi.It makes such a big difference and you are avoiding the small gaps between the render and the frames in the future. IMHO of course.
 
Rendered Borders

rendered border - using stop beads I'm currently trying if weather allows me to finish it , doing one


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Rendered Borders

this is the next one I've not topped borders yet waiting for weather !


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Angle beads on corners, 2x1 around outside of 'rendered borders' which in laymans terms are 'bands'?
That is if your bands are proud of the wall which I presume is what everyone does!


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15mm beads around window and 2by1 on the out side 4 inch in width that's how I do them. Or use a 3by1 and free hand if u don't want to use beads.
 
Wasn't there an Irish bead called easi bead? Used them myself but I don't know who supplies them now.

Ian Jones has them on one of his video's.
 
4inch bands we call them, but usually flush with outside of window cill, presuming window is centred in cill, 2x1outside two coat bead on return or hold rules old style, would want paying well to go freehand. Oh....bands first pannel last is the norm.

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Has anyone thought about the potential issues with creating these bands.... As in those who use beads and do bands after do you seal around to stop water getting behind, also this is another perfect example of ledging where water can collect and create that vile green/black staining.
A lot of things can make render look better initially but not always practical in long term.
Just a genuine question before anyone wants to jump down my throat or on my dick!


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Jgreenplastering said:
Has anyone thought about the potential issues with creating these bands.... As in those who use beads and do bands after do you seal around to stop water getting behind, also this is another perfect example of ledging where water can collect and create that vile green/black staining.
A lot of things can make render look better initially but not always practical in long term.
Just a genuine question before anyone wants to jump down my throat or on my dick!


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Good point was thinking the same
 
SAS Europe make a soffit bead but only in 6mm. If they could make it in 6, 10 & 15mm beads that would be a good idea for water drip off over openings.
 
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I've only ever done these window bands with sand and cement.
We scratch coat first then put 2x1 planed around the outside then render the face and reveals in one go with no beads.
When the bands have hardened then you render around them.
 
The stop bead method is usually only seen on a retrofit, though I would much rather live with a few nail holes as unless wall absolutely 100% either the stop has to be beded and straightened or angle bead needs adjusting to suit , very easy to pull the lath out on nail and then set the angle to suit.

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Badgerrrrrrr said:
Did some banding round a mates place in France the other year using stop bead, the look was ok, put did end up siliconing around all the beads to stop any ingress of water getting behind the render.

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Looks a lovley job mate
We do a lot of work like that but we never use beads it's all done by hand and left with slight bumps and sponged in with all edges shanfererd
But it each to there own
 
Jerseyboy said:
I've only ever done these window bands with sand and cement.
We scratch coat first then put 2x1 planed around the outside then render the face and reveals in one go with no beads.
When the bands have hardened then you render around them.
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Have done that a few times also
, we call these chanfered bands, look nice as well especially on a dashed house, a few I know throw up patent reveal and just put a band round and over it , tends to leave a smooth edge where they join though.

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Jgreenplastering said:
Has anyone thought about the potential issues with creating these bands.... As in those who use beads and do bands after do you seal around to stop water getting behind, also this is another perfect example of ledging where water can collect and create that vile green/black staining.
A lot of things can make render look better initially but not always practical in long term.
Just a genuine question before anyone wants to jump down my throat or on my dick!


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Lol
 
Badgerrrrrrr said:
On the same house in France we just filled the digger bucket up with muck, wellies on stand in the bucket and away you go....lol, things you do for mates to get the job done lol. Then use the bucket to hold the scaffold planks.


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Fair play to you it gets it done
Is the finish bumpy smooth? Or flat render?
We do bumpy smooth on old granite buildings it looks good with white cement and lime
 
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Bumpy smooth............love it

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I hope you don't think I was being smart!!!
Bumpy smooth is a popular finish it's put on and made to look like hidden stone but sponged so it's smooth.
It has a French name which means hidden stone (Pierre par dou)
Or maybe not quite as I've tried to spell it
 
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