returning to a job through delay

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Fourplastering said:
Yes, I have a Lad too.
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i would defiantly ask for more money then ,as not only would you be working for nothing, but your be at a loss if you've already paid your lad once,,,like you say you have probably saved them from paying for the job twice if you just done it anyway,,
 
flynnyman said:
Let's have it right you didn't actually do much work maybe an hour then Noticed the problem, you could of checked if it was leaking easy enough. You rang them rather than just get on and blame the plumber which will look good and professional. fair enough you can't get on and wasted the other two hours you would be there so yeh maybe you should get payed but It will be interesting to hear what they say when you want to charge them for not doing the job then want to charge them again. I'm not saying it's wrong to charge them but you could end up with **** all maybe an hours pay and loose out on the job and get called a Robbin ****, like I said grit your teeth and let them know it is more of your time but hope they give you a bonus or say at the end what is the extra and have a figure In Your head ready.
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This is exactly my quandary
So you wouldn't charge them?
 
flynnyman said:
Not if I was subby for another plasterer that's his problem not mine lol but what would you do as my gaffer :) and back to you lol
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But in essance, I am your customer! You have already said you would swallow it, and as a subbie there would more than likely be a lot more work.
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Fourplastering said:
But in essance, I am your customer! You have already said you would swallow it, and as a subbie there would more than likely be a lot more work.
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Not really you are my gaffer and they are still the customer and if you didn't pay me I wouldn't be interested in more work with no money lol if I was he customer I would probably pay you for the hour and fuel maybe but not the job coz you never did it. Was you on day rate or a price?
 
flynnyman said:
Not really you are my gaffer and they are still the customer and if you didn't pay me I wouldn't be interested in more work with no money lol if I was he customer I would probably pay you for the hour and fuel maybe but not the job coz you never did it. Was you on day rate or a price?
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I disagree, they are employing me, they are my customer, I am employing you, I am your customer.

I've already said its a tight price.
If it was daywork it wouldn't be an issue would it.

If it was an hour, Flynny, I would swallow it but its gone into two days.
Its not like its just an hours work this morning, its board up and reskim the lid.
 
Thanks for all your input guys, really appreciated.
I'm still unsure of how to play this one out but I've had my eyes opened a bit, so thanks again :-)
 
Fourplastering said:
I disagree, they are employing me, they are my customer, I am employing you, I am your customer.

I've already said its a tight price.
If it was daywork it wouldn't be an issue would it.

If it was an hour, Flynny, I would swallow it but its gone into two days.
Its not like its just an hours work this morning, its board up and reskim the lid.
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Your getting customer and gaffer mixed up I've never looked at any builder or plastering contractor as the customer coz you can talk and act a different way with them rather than a real customer. How long did it take to cut the damaged section out? If you were doing the whole lid did you Pva it whilst you were there or just **** off? It should all be prepared if you did so why not just pop back in the afternoon or evening and do it so your not loosing out?
 
I did what I could yesterday up and including a bonding agent on the ceiling and cutting the boards to fit and nogging out.

Id be the gaffa, but also the customer, my customer wouldnt be able to tell you what to do, you would take you direction from me, but you would try and please my customer, or at least, I wolud hope so, lol.

customer[ kuhs-tuh-mer ]
noun
1. a person who purchases goods or services from another; buyer; patron.
 
Only time I see you have lost is travel time. Amd time to load and unload the van
Apart from that the job will still take just as much time.
Your not on a day rate a price. So that's it. You could ask for the extra time. But it's not much (assuming the jobs localish)
 
Fourplastering said:
I did what I could yesterday up and including a bonding agent on the ceiling and cutting the boards to fit and nogging out.

Id be the gaffa, but also the customer, my customer wouldnt be able to tell you what to do, you would take you direction from me, but you would try and please my customer, or at least, I wolud hope so, lol.

customer[ kuhs-tuh-mer ]
noun
1. a person who purchases goods or services from another; buyer; patron.
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So what ya gonna do? Have you told them what your gonna do and how much your gonna charge extra or are you gonn say once the job is done?
 
mikeadams1985 said:
Only time I see you have lost is travel time. Amd time to load and unload the van
Apart from that the job will still take just as much time.
Your not on a day rate a price. So that's it. You could ask for the extra time. But it's not much (assuming the jobs localish)
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Hence the original question, Mike, but I have lost a day because the job could have been finished yesterday an a should have been doing something else today instead.
 
Should have just done the job, leak is not your problem. Now the job has become a problem because you have been nice. It's likely there not going to want to give you anymore for your wasted time. If your not going ask for any extra anyway stop moaning, if you are going to ask, you should have have just done job in first place
because your not going get much. Good luck with it .........
 
JohnDoe said:
Should have just done the job, leak is not your problem. Now the job has become a problem because you have been nice. It's likely there not going to want to give you anymore for your wasted time. If your not going ask for any extra anyway stop moaning, if you are going to ask, you should have have just done job in first place
because your not going get much. Good luck with it .........
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but then if the leak showed up once boarded and skimmed he would of no doubt got blame buy customer saying it was fine before plasterer arrived
 
You are running a bussiness, your pricing shouldn't just cover a day rate so you can get by, or you may aswell work for someone and not have the stress.

The work you have quoted for is still the same, and you have quoted the customer for the job I presume not a day rate? It's a trivial thing thats very rare, I wouldn't dream of charging more in this instance, customer care and service is paramount in the domestic game.
 
But It wasn't fine, cus it was getting chopped out. If the plasterer had to cut out section check for leak then come back and repair after plumber if was a leak, then it should have been priced for that way, but I think it's been price at like 100 quid when should be triple.
 
Wezly said:
You are running a bussiness, your pricing shouldn't just cover a day rate so you can get by, or you may aswell work for someone and not have the stress.

The work you have quoted for is still the same, and you have quoted the customer for the job I presume not a day rate? It's a trivial thing thats very rare, I wouldn't dream of charging more in this instance, customer care and service is paramount in the domestic game.
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I wouldn't charge anymore... But would like to think I priced it correctly to start with.
 
Like I said I did a similar job, I noticed the leak 5 minutes into the job and ****** off. I was doin it in the evening it was a small job so wasn't arsed and came back after it had been sorted.
 
yeah the job i left was replace middle part of a ceilin started taking it down and noticed that the reason the board was f ucked was a leak in the roof plus the insulation was full of mices so i whacked the cut out board back up told them to get in pest control and my roofer then came back after, worked out well the roofer always gives me a drink if i pass on a job and i had priced it enough that loosing a day and spending it with my young family was a better option for me
 
Just to clarify,
The leak was supposedly fixed.
The walls needed protecting as they didn't want to decorate again.
They didn't want to go through the insurance as they had a large excess.
I priced it tight to fill my diary (which is now biting me on the arse).

So after moving furniture, all the sheeting up, scraping down, sealing up, cutting ceiling out, finding leak and phoning client, its gone way past 10. Buy the time client got back to me it's near 11.

Can someone please tell me how this is a 5 minute job?
 
Fourplastering said:
Just to clarify,
The leak was supposedly fixed.
The walls needed protecting as they didn't want to decorate again.
They didn't want to go through the insurance as they had a large excess.
I priced it tight to fill my diary (which is now biting me on the arse).

So after moving furniture, all the sheeting up, scraping down, sealing up, cutting ceiling out, finding leak and phoning client, its gone way past 10. Buy the time client got back to me it's near 11.

Can someone please tell me how this is a 5 minute job?
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by checking if the leak was fixed first :)
 
This extra money might not even be an issue. Some customers are very understanding and will be more than happy to pay extra.
 
IN my opinion for what its worth I think your making a mountain out of a molehole....

yes its annoying however its not been done through malice occasionaly you just have to accept little knockbacks....that's just how it is its a numbers game...

If you turned up to a job and was asked to do additional work for the same price than that's totaly different but the work hasn't changed its just that its not ended up being available on the day which the customer didn't know either..

for me its as simple as either now saying im verry sorry I cant fit it back in as diarys full for x amount of weeks or it becomes a Saturday job when next available etc...

all in all its a days money nothing more nothing less...

realy not worth all the stress buddy!!!
 
zombie said:
IN my opinion for what its worth I think your making a mountain out of a molehole....

yes its annoying however its not been done through malice occasionaly you just have to accept little knockbacks....that's just how it is its a numbers game...

If you turned up to a job and was asked to do additional work for the same price than that's totaly different but the work hasn't changed its just that its not ended up being available on the day which the customer didn't know either..

for me its as simple as either now saying im verry sorry I cant fit it back in as diarys full for x amount of weeks or it becomes a Saturday job when next available etc...

all in all its a days money nothing more nothing less...

realy not worth all the stress buddy!!!
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exactly my point but written beautifully :)
 
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