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plasterjfe
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you are bang on merl the industry is being run by over informed college wank3ers who dont understand how the actual works take place and they certainly dont understand pricework. lol. The bigger tenders I get now are 95% health and safety with a BoQ on the back. its difficult to meet the criteria and like you say what a company earns does not cover the H&S side. alot of people are going out of business dur to the recession and the demands of H&S pushing them further.
More and more will eventually say fek this we wont bother. theyr pushing up the cost of building. I was asked for one job to have all staff NVQ - CSCS carded not just any old cscs plus one member of staff assigned safety officer to run our site waste managment data and liase all safety issues. this was a full time shirt job not just a chargehand who works on the tools so I walked from that one............ To55ers
More and more will eventually say fek this we wont bother. theyr pushing up the cost of building. I was asked for one job to have all staff NVQ - CSCS carded not just any old cscs plus one member of staff assigned safety officer to run our site waste managment data and liase all safety issues. this was a full time shirt job not just a chargehand who works on the tools so I walked from that one............ To55ers
Chris W
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its even worse than that the higher up the food chain you get....
connaughts had all these bleeding targets they had to hit, customer satisfaction, 3 monthly pat tests, time in, time out, penalty clauses etc..
8 full time staff just filling in the f'ckin paperwork for around 40 people on site, just one contract, wasnt like they were dealing with other jobs....
connaughts had all these bleeding targets they had to hit, customer satisfaction, 3 monthly pat tests, time in, time out, penalty clauses etc..
8 full time staff just filling in the f'ckin paperwork for around 40 people on site, just one contract, wasnt like they were dealing with other jobs....
hmy:..........pleased I'm on domestics - "Cup of tea to go with that Kit-Kat love?":rolleyes)
plasterjfe
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Exactly.
the way its going this will be happening more and more to main contractors and and sub contracting companies they pass the responsibility onto. Bleedin joke. like i said a job i am pricing right now is around 85pages deep and comes with two discs and the bit i am interested in is the very last page with the quants of the work and the system on it, its not even a whole page long - it took me around seven minutes to work out the price and then i passed it to my Qs who will need a couple of days checking all the legals/liabilities/responsibilities/terms etc
merlin
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spoke to scaffolder yesterday and he confirmed that by law any gap over 125mm between boards and wall has to be double hand railed and tow boarded. although if you ask for the cdm method statement for the works it should tell you how you are to apply the render , its should explain how to work within these hand rails, just found out that somebody is doin that job , thats the problem the more people agree to work under these conditions the more tighter its gonna get! F@ck em im not doin it ,
SPREADS
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Always the same ,scaffold too close to the wall,or you have to remove bars so you can get to the wall.Don,t think brickies have that problem and most accidents are caused by plasterers removing bars and not replacing them,its simple enough to understand what a plasterer needs and where he or she is going to be working.
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