second coat
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pro finish
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after i have laid on my first coat,i get all me gear clean and mix up second coat..give a quick brush round the edges to remove any build up.
then just before i lay it on i just flatten the first coat removing any lines,,then away you go.
then just before i lay it on i just flatten the first coat removing any lines,,then away you go.
lewisricekrispy
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Think he said it's one he's renting out
lewisricekrispy
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Whoops. I hope he hasn't put the first coat and is waiting for a reply before troweling off and applying second
lewisricekrispy
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Surely you want the first coat as flat as possible making the second coat easier to flaten out.
pro finish
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who said anythink about MESSING about :-\ if you can get your first coat on flat. 2 sec's over it to bed it and then second coat,all adds to better finish ..after all thats what its all aboutjon rambo said:
islandview
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Ive got a mate who skimmed a ceiling once. He was telling me all about it saying how well it went. He then asked when should he go back to do the second coat! What a dick! He was gutted when i told him what he had done.
lewisricekrispy
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Big dick. Lol. Know some jack off alls who got someone cheaper in to replace me. He laid on first coat and went home without troweling off. Come back next day finish off. that'll teach you tight arses.
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lewisricekrispy said:
if your good enough there isn't any lines in first coat
twitcher
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Right, what you've got to get a feel for is timing and this will only come with time and lots of practise.
it's almost instinctive, but if I had to break it down, then I'd say it's a combination of getting a feel for the suction of the background, the relative humidity of the room, how thick you're laying it on and what the gears like you're laying on - people have said enough times on here that finish responds differently according to what time of the year it was manufactured or by batch.
Once I've put me first coat on, which varies in thickness depending on the background suction or if it's a reskim (uneven surfaces and reskimming artex for instance requires you to lay it on pretty thick) then I'll get on with cleaning up. I instinctively know when to throw on the second coat, but in the past i've felt it with my finger to see how it's firming up. I suggest you try this.
I don't trowel out lines on the first coat, I just go on with the second coat. That's due to the fact that I lay stuff on quickly but smoothly. When people start out they tend to leave lots of lines and ridges. So if you're starting out it's probably a good idea to trowel your first coat flat - don't waste time getting it perfect. Then with time and practise, you'll sort out your trowel technique and there won't be so many lines.
All I can say is practise, practise, practise...
it's almost instinctive, but if I had to break it down, then I'd say it's a combination of getting a feel for the suction of the background, the relative humidity of the room, how thick you're laying it on and what the gears like you're laying on - people have said enough times on here that finish responds differently according to what time of the year it was manufactured or by batch.
Once I've put me first coat on, which varies in thickness depending on the background suction or if it's a reskim (uneven surfaces and reskimming artex for instance requires you to lay it on pretty thick) then I'll get on with cleaning up. I instinctively know when to throw on the second coat, but in the past i've felt it with my finger to see how it's firming up. I suggest you try this.
I don't trowel out lines on the first coat, I just go on with the second coat. That's due to the fact that I lay stuff on quickly but smoothly. When people start out they tend to leave lots of lines and ridges. So if you're starting out it's probably a good idea to trowel your first coat flat - don't waste time getting it perfect. Then with time and practise, you'll sort out your trowel technique and there won't be so many lines.
All I can say is practise, practise, practise...
i did!what do you think second coat is for.ring bg they will tell you the same.pro finish said:who said anythink about MESSING about :-\ if you can get your first coat on flat. 2 sec's over it to bed it and then second coat,all adds to better finish ..after all thats what its all aboutjon rambo said:
lewisricekrispy
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I said YOU want the first coat as flat as poss, not me, cos I'm ace.
twitcher
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nelly said:
you're right.
You can get it relatively smooth though with practise. It'll still have lines but they won't be deep holes and ridges. If you time the second coat right you'll smooth over these with the next coat. Sometimes I do flatten out first coats if the lines look really deep. but yeah nobody can throw coats on with no lines.
lewisricekrispy
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Maybe they need an eye test. I know plasterers who've been doing it thirty years plus, who still get lines during first coat. I supose you could do it, but the ammount of time you spend fanying around, you could of troweled it off and started to lay on the second
I always usta get the first coat as flat as possible when laying on. This is how i had been taught.
Now i fire on the first coat,don't worry about it being neat( to a certain extent),then go back and quickly flatten it before second coat.
Trust me, much easier,quicker and better finish. Anyone who tells you not to flatten your first coat is talkin sh#te.
Now i fire on the first coat,don't worry about it being neat( to a certain extent),then go back and quickly flatten it before second coat.
Trust me, much easier,quicker and better finish. Anyone who tells you not to flatten your first coat is talkin sh#te.
just because you can't put it on both quickly and neatly don't think none of us can, I don't flatten my first coat and neither do most of the good spreads I've come across.lewisricekrispy
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Being a good plasterer is not what people should be aspiring to. Excelence is where people should to be. Besides, the original post was from a novice. Anyone starting out should always trowel off between coats, as they generaly won't be fast enough to get away with not troweling off second coat.
lewisricekrispy said:
I'm one of the old f*ckers who, after a few years decided I couldnt be arsed flattening the first coat (you think your saving time) then something ree introduced it to me and its miles easier and faster.
I throw my first on as fast as possible too. With plastering it aint how you start its how you finish.
lewisricekrispy
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Tottaly agree with nelly. Eveyone has their own way of doing it. What might seem wrong to others may seem right some, and vise versa.
DominoRemoved
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this is a forum of plasterers that is ment too help people that need help
its not there too keep taking the ****
even if the guy is charging people or its just work on his or her house
dus it matter the bloke is asking for help and we as plasterers on a open plasterers forum
we should be there too help them out
dont matter how silly the question is??????????????????
think there needs too be a section on here just for guests too ask for help and for plasterers to advise as too how too solve there problems
and be monitored soo the posts dont goo silly/and taken of course
I think this mite work
danny have a think about it
its not there too keep taking the ****
even if the guy is charging people or its just work on his or her house
dus it matter the bloke is asking for help and we as plasterers on a open plasterers forum
we should be there too help them out
dont matter how silly the question is??????????????????
think there needs too be a section on here just for guests too ask for help and for plasterers to advise as too how too solve there problems
and be monitored soo the posts dont goo silly/and taken of course
I think this mite work
danny have a think about it
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