Shut the fk up you knob, where anywhere do I agree with what vincey says about products? I disagree as much as you do about them but you know what I'm big enough not to bring it up every two fking minutes .Honestly the pish you post on this forum is diabolical, from shoving your political views down everyone's throat to jumping on any new members asking a question and let's not forget about the way you love to twist folks words and act all high and mighty when asking the same question about twenty times but just changed in a way to suit whatever agenda your on that day. I've heard your a really nice guy face to face but you've created an online persona of a pure c**t and by god your running with it.