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Jurek

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i was doing a job yesterday and the girls mother and father were there to let me in and then just watched me all morning. the occasional smattering of conversation. how his dad was a plasterer etc. then when she came home after dinner i was packing away and she was saying how pleased she was and her mum said shed been mesmerized by watching me work and she was going to tell all her friends about me etc. anyway i was watching masterchef the professionals the other night and they have that skills test thing when the chef with the beard and the woman ask them to create a dish. some of them couldnt even make a mayonnaise and last week one bloke couldnt take the skin off a pigs trotter. what would you make the skills test if it was like a plastering show
 
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If you had done a proper apprenticeship you would have to do a two day skills test at the end of it. It involved boarding and skimming a ceiling with a bulkhead in it, set float beads around a window then float the wall then skim. render a wall with sand and cement fitting Bell cast beads then finish off screeding the floor.
 
flynnyman said:
If you had done a proper apprenticeship you would have to do a two day skills test at the end of it. It involved boarding and skimming a ceiling with a bulkhead in it, set float beads around a window then float the wall then skim. render a wall with sand and cement fitting Bell cast beads then finish off screeding the floor.
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We went to the same place i believe mate?? Trafford Park ??
 
Jurek said:
i was doing a job yesterday and the girls mother and father were there to let me in and then just watched me all morning. the occasional smattering of conversation. how his dad was a plasterer etc. then when she came home after dinner i was packing away and she was saying how pleased she was and her mum said shed been mesmerized by watching me work and she was going to tell all her friends about me etc. anyway i was watching masterchef the professionals the other night and they have that skills test thing when the chef with the beard and the woman ask them to create a dish. some of them couldnt even make a mayonnaise and last week one bloke couldnt take the skin off a pigs trotter. what would you make the skills test if it was like a plastering show
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I think the mum fancy u :bananas:
 
We did similar at the end of my level 3, floated and skimmed a room then fixed and run a fibrous cornice, then built and constructed 3 circular pillars in the room. I went to skills build at birmingham nec for our collage in 1999 were they put you to test against others your age around the country, we had to float and set a room with bulkheads and a barrel ceiling, not sure if apprentices still do it mind.
 
yeah and then never need them skills again in the real world...

in the modern world...

dot & dab & skim covers internals...

mono & thin coats cover externals...

leave the 1 call every 10yrs for fibreous G** stuff for the anaroks to do!!!

simples!!!
 
zombie said:
yeah and then never need them skills again in the real world...

in the modern world...

dot & dab & skim covers internals...

mono & thin coats cover externals...

leave the 1 call every 10yrs for fibreous G** stuff for the anaroks to do!!!

simples!!!
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That's the thing about skills..........they're easy carried.....

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All things sand and cement inside and out (walls and floor).
Bagged renders and a bit of board and set including a 31m2 ceiling to skim to get the fatties sweating a bit.
 
zombie said:
yeah and then never need them skills again in the real world...

in the modern world...

dot & dab & skim covers internals...

mono & thin coats cover externals...

leave the 1 call every 10yrs for fibreous G** stuff for the anaroks to do!!!

simples!!!
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You have obviously never got into the real world
 
I had a test on skimming over an artex ceiling then patching in a chase followed by banging a housewife before hubbie got home! Passed.
And never used in the real world zombie! :D
 
Being able to squeeze the words fcuk and c**t into every sentence is essential. At least it seems to be for plasterers round here.
 
You need the skill to open up your wallet and pay the money.....youre f**k*d if youve got short arms and long pockets.
 
Test 1 - try get out of bed
Test 2 - try get a coffee out of customer
Test 3 - try get home with money ASAP
Test 4 - try. Do it all again the next day
This week I failed but hoping I pass next week.
 
flynnyman said:
You have obviously never got into the real world
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yawnnnnnn...yeah your probabley right all my yrs on price as a 2&1 gang where wasted...

what I should have been doing is some G** magnetic picture plaster size of an A4 in a bistro...

coz that's where the moneys at!!!:endesacuerdo:
 
zombie said:
yawnnnnnn...yeah your probabley right all my yrs on price as a 2&1 gang where wasted...

what I should have been doing is some G** magnetic picture plaster size of an A4 in a bistro...

coz that's where the moneys at!!!:endesacuerdo:
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Manetic is cool, there is a real market and that market has soom green to spend.
 
I think I skills test would work...

but then if nobody recognises the test ie the public... then what is the point....
 
zombie said:
yawnnnnnn...yeah your probabley right all my yrs on price as a 2&1 gang where wasted...

what I should have been doing is some G** magnetic picture plaster size of an A4 in a bistro...

coz that's where the moneys at!!!:endesacuerdo:
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Take it your just a ten a penny site skimmer who thinks he's a plasterer? Lol save your bullshit for someone who gives a f**k I've met lefty of idiots on site who thought they were plasterers and even their sliming wasn't up to much never mind their boarding. Carry on being a site robot if it earns you money but don't ever for one minute think you a re a plasterer. I do every type of plastering on a daily basis doing domestics and I get plenty of satisfaction from doing it, so all the skills you say you will never need your wrong but on site your correct the skills are minimum. I doubt you have seen a bag of magnetic plaster never mind used it , I doubt you would know how to mix sand and cement never mind put it on and going off your basic questions you keep asking if site work stops like it did a while back you would struggle like f**k. Xx
 
flynnyman said:
Take it your just a ten a penny site skimmer who thinks he's a plasterer? Lol save your bullshit for someone who gives a f**k I've met lefty of idiots on site who thought they were plasterers and even their sliming wasn't up to much never mind their boarding. Carry on being a site robot if it earns you money but don't ever for one minute think you a re a plasterer. I do every type of plastering on a daily basis doing domestics and I get plenty of satisfaction from doing it, so all the skills you say you will never need your wrong but on site your correct the skills are minimum. I doubt you have seen a bag of magnetic plaster never mind used it , I doubt you would know how to mix sand and cement never mind put it on and going off your basic questions you keep asking if site work stops like it did a while back you would struggle like f**k. Xx
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So u have covered a bit on plastering . have u covered lime cork ?
 
Danny said:
I think I skills test would work...

but then if nobody recognises the test ie the public... then what is the point....
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When i did mine it was part of an NVQ qualification and unless you passed it? You were not considered to be "time served"
 
zombie said:
yawnnnnnn...yeah your probabley right all my yrs on price as a 2&1 gang where wasted...

what I should have been doing is some G** magnetic picture plaster size of an A4 in a bistro...

coz that's where the moneys at!!!:endesacuerdo:
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If ya finish is ok that's all that matters in my book.
 
theplasterman said:
If ya finish is ok that's all that matters in my book.
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In your one page book? What happens when the damp starts showing through on your good finish? Makes me laugh when I see a shiney finish and a proud bloke stood with his reflection in it hahahaha might fool a customer but that's about it :)
 
flynnyman said:
Take it your just a ten a penny site skimmer who thinks he's a plasterer? Lol save your bullshit for someone who gives a f**k I've met lefty of idiots on site who thought they were plasterers and even their sliming wasn't up to much never mind their boarding. Carry on being a site robot if it earns you money but don't ever for one minute think you a re a plasterer. I do every type of plastering on a daily basis doing domestics and I get plenty of satisfaction from doing it, so all the skills you say you will never need your wrong but on site your correct the skills are minimum. I doubt you have seen a bag of magnetic plaster never mind used it , I doubt you would know how to mix sand and cement never mind put it on and going off your basic questions you keep asking if site work stops like it did a while back you would struggle like f**k. Xx
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owt else?...have yer finished bud?

now go and hide in your little domestic wonderland and hide from the big boys!!!

yawwwnnnnnn
 
zombie said:
owt else?...have yer finished bud?

now go and hide in your little domestic wonderland and hide from the big boys!!!

yawwwnnnnnn
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Lol big boys you really have bought into the bullshit of site spreads hahahaha I done it for years mate a mugs game, £2.20m and f**k all for beads or loading up then arguing about the measure you can have it and I bet your not even getting that in Barnsley.
 
flynnyman said:
In your one page book? What happens when the damp starts showing through on your good finish? Makes me laugh when I see a shiney finish and a proud bloke stood with his reflection in it hahahaha might fool a customer but that's about it :)
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Think u take things the wrong way sometimes
If I needed help from a plasterer..like I will in January I won't be asking them to show there city in guilds.
As long as the work is ok that's it for me,I didn't want to get into the who's right or wrong debate in this thread.
I might be wrong and correct me if I am but when you did your time did you cover machines,ewi,mono,polish/Venetian plastering,using magnetic using unifinish,plastic trowels,insulated plasterboard...?
My point is all of these are new product and someone like yourself who has the experience for say 20 years is not going to go back to college and gain a qualification for them.A few days being told and shown how to use them and away you can go straight on the job.
In terms of damp I never get involved with injecting etc..only floating and plastering after.
 
@flynnyman ...

just to put this to bed now because tbh its boring...

my original comment was saying that for all these black magic skills relating to training and so on that the sorry but true reflection is that to get by be it on commercial site,newbuilds & domestic...

dot & skim is king across all builds in 90% of internals in England incidentley I have done hundreds & hundreds of float & set but my point being is that its an exception not the bulk of the work.

Likewise any new works be it commercial, newbuilds or domestics externally...mono or thin coats are far more popular now both by sites and requests by domestic customers alike.

The point I was trying to make is that you may as well be good and excel at where the demand is than harp on about skillsets and materials that you get little demand thus make little money from.

For the record I cut my teeth learning all aspects on price work but I also have worked soley on domestic work for the last 5yrs...and up until the last 12mnths used to do work for a couple of small builders, conny firm & kitchen & bathroom company aswell.

So I understand entirely your point regarding the need for understanding products and skillsets to overcome daily problems encountered by domestics.

For what its worth I believe both domestics & site are both equally difficult but in different ways...

But please for one moment don't suggest that any one that works on site price work is less of spread than a domestic plasterer...a slow domestic spread wouldn't earn there petrol money on site...likewise a ruff site spread wouldn't get paid on domestic...
 
99% of the so called plasterers you talk about on site are never plasterers just skimmers and 99% were rough as f**k and that's not a guess I've seen it first hand. They either skim badly or board badly they rarely do both so the skill needed on site in my opinion is minimal. It's not a dig but fact and I stand by it because I have seen it and worked for all the main plastering companies in Manchester who have it tied up and it's the same jokers jumping from one firm to another.
 
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