So has it affected your ability to win work ?

Am on the Irish gyprock approved applicator scheme. It's aimed at new build and domestic. Had to go down to gyprock for 2 days and do hardwall skim dot and dab tape and joint. And learn all about there products when to use and when to not. All the work was inspected. On the frist day at lunchtime a bloke didn't come back. I asked where is he. And the instructor just give me that look. Don't ask. I went down to where he was working it was a mess. We had to do a test at the end of it. Had to answer question. Can't remember how many. Then you just handed in the form. If u pass u get on the list. They give u t-shirt and a top and a gyprock approved booklet. So when pricing jobs u can show clients what products you are going to use and what' best for there job. The like when they see it in a book what u are actually going to do. And that you are approved by gyprock to carry out the work. It's a sales pitch. But it works. U look the part. They get some confidence in you. Iv used it 3 times now pricing jobs and won jobs. And was far from the cheapest. I don't price much work as I work 90% for my own builders.
 
Formby plastering said:
Vinceys a whole new level theres only me and him who ive heard talk most about it so who else is there
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Forgot to ask did you put yourself forward for any of the free Weber render product training events they offered on scheme or get involved in the ox tools trials ?
 
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Vincey said:
Forgot to ask did you put yourself forward for any of the free Weber render product training events the offered on scheme or get involved in the ox tools trials ?
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I did for the ox but didnt recieve anything on the weber training wouldnt have minded going to them to be honest.
 
Formby plastering said:
I did for the ox but didnt recieve anything on the weber training wouldnt have minded going to them to be honest.
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No worries apparently it’s getting rolled out to every member anyway mate , what about the sound solutions installer scheme and the small business diploma offered? Did they email about those too ?
 
Vincey said:
No worries apparently it’s getting rolled out to every member anyway mate , what about the sound solutions installer scheme and the small business diploma offered? Did they email about those too ?
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Not the sound soloutions one but i got one for trialling the new updated hardwall.
The diploma one i just didnt have the time to do it .
Ill definatly do the render one though when the email gets about.
 
Donzo said:
Just read the terms conditions, , , radiators to be removed, and re fixed ,,
50% of customers won't pay for that,, ,they want you to skim round them,,, which is crap.
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I would assume that as long as you recommended to the client that they be removed that you'd be covered if they declined.
 
Formby plastering said:
Not the sound soloutions one but i got one for trialling the new updated hardwall.
The diploma one i just didnt have the time to do it .
Ill definatly do the render one though when the email gets about.
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Nice one I didn’t have any jobs lined up to try the new hardwall out on , tbf I could of used it with just a few bags but a full pallet I couldn’t of
 
theclemo said:
Am on the Irish gyprock approved applicator scheme. It's aimed at new build and domestic. Had to go down to gyprock for 2 days and do hardwall skim dot and dab tape and joint. And learn all about there products when to use and when to not. All the work was inspected. On the frist day at lunchtime a bloke didn't come back. I asked where is he. And the instructor just give me that look. Don't ask. I went down to where he was working it was a mess. We had to do a test at the end of it. Had to answer question. Can't remember how many. Then you just handed in the form. If u pass u get on the list. They give u t-shirt and a top and a gyprock approved booklet. So when pricing jobs u can show clients what products you are going to use and what' best for there job. The like when they see it in a book what u are actually going to do. And that you are approved by gyprock to carry out the work. It's a sales pitch. But it works. U look the part. They get some confidence in you. Iv used it 3 times now pricing jobs and won jobs. And was far from the cheapest. I don't price much work as I work 90% for my own builders.
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Now this sounds exactly like what I was hoping the BG scheme would be. Bloody spot on.
Come on @BritishGypsum give us, that concentrate mostly on new builds, something like the Irish version. Please, pretty please.
 
theclemo said:
Am on the Irish gyprock approved applicator scheme. It's aimed at new build and domestic. Had to go down to gyprock for 2 days and do hardwall skim dot and dab tape and joint. And learn all about there products when to use and when to not. All the work was inspected. On the frist day at lunchtime a bloke didn't come back. I asked where is he. And the instructor just give me that look. Don't ask. I went down to where he was working it was a mess. We had to do a test at the end of it. Had to answer question. Can't remember how many. Then you just handed in the form. If u pass u get on the list. They give u t-shirt and a top and a gyprock approved booklet. So when pricing jobs u can show clients what products you are going to use and what' best for there job. The like when they see it in a book what u are actually going to do. And that you are approved by gyprock to carry out the work. It's a sales pitch. But it works. U look the part. They get some confidence in you. Iv used it
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essexandy said:
Now this sounds exactly like what I was hoping the BG scheme would be. Bloody spot on.
Come on @BritishGypsum give us, that concentrate mostly on new builds, something like the Irish version.

https://www.saint-gobain.ie/technical-academy/courses-cpds/gyproc-plaster-product-application
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https://www.saint-gobain.ie/technical-academy/courses-cpds/gyproc-plaster-product-application
 
essexandy said:
And even that's free!
What's not to like, well unless you're one of the thousands of chancers out there.
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That's the book u get. Has all the info on it for u and the client's

So has it affected your ability to win work ?
So has it affected your ability to win work ?
So has it affected your ability to win work ?
 
I love all those books, I have the white book and site book and update them regularly but I am very geeky like that I also have loads of books on Plastering and building even Millers plain and decorative which cost me ninety odd pound twenty odd years ago. I just think that all these things telling me I can do what I know I can do are not for me but if it works for others that’s their choice. never renewed my CIS card after the first one which was meant to tell people you could do what you say you can
 
Mouldyoldspudgun said:
I love all those books, I have the white book and site book and update them regularly but I am very geeky like that I also have loads of books on Plastering and building even Millers plain and decorative which cost me ninety odd pound twenty odd years ago. I just think that all these things telling me I can do what I know I can do are not for me but if it works for others that’s their choice. never renewed my CIS card after the first one which was meant to tell people you could do what you say you can
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They give me that to.

So has it affected your ability to win work ?
 
Tbh I also carry a 2007 edition site book in van , as unlike the biggest hypocrite on here I don’t proclaim to know it all
 
Mouldyoldspudgun said:
I love all those books, I have the white book and site book and update them regularly but I am very geeky like that I also have loads of books on Plastering and building even Millers plain and decorative which cost me ninety odd pound twenty odd years ago. I just think that all these things telling me I can do what I know I can do are not for me but if it works for others that’s their choice. never renewed my CIS card after the first one which was meant to tell people you could do what you say you can
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I love books,, ,but its porno ones.
 
gps said:
Of course it is lol. Apparently it’s was only the first 100, then they realised no one ( the masses) was interested
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I find it mad that if was that big of a thing they haven’t promoted it well I think your average joe public will still go to the other sites for plasterers over the bg scheme myself as they don’t know about it
 
I'm quite tempted to get on this thingy, them freebie training is a good thing
Not sure they take on any carpet fitters tho
 
flynnyman said:
Someone who concentrates on new builds is either a boarder or skimmer but never a plasterer :)
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Yeah I know what you mean, we only screed, tack, direct bond, Bond out curved areas, skim and render on our new builds. Oh and over 400sqm of F&S is one new build last year and over 300 S&C F&S new builds in the last twenty years.
So yeah maybe we're not plasterers.
I'm sad.
Oh I have fixed a few (cough) metres of cornice and run a bit in situ.
Never mind, I'm still sad.
 
essexandy said:
Yeah I know what you mean, we only screed, tack, direct bond, Bond out curved areas, skim and render on our new builds. Oh and over 400sqm of F&S is one new build last year and over 300 S&C F&S new builds in the last twenty years.
So yeah maybe we're not plasterers.
I'm sad.
Oh I have fixed a few (cough) metres of cornice and run a bit in situ.
Never mind, I'm still sad.
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well im below you sir ive never ran cornice.....im not a spread at all ....i must be a sad sad man :(
but i did build a garden wall :bananahappy:
+ lots of demolishon which i loved.
and i know how to start a good fuucking garden fire.
 
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