sockets and switches
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kirk johnstone
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plasterjfe said:
it pops up on the main board when you are an active member, like i said i have been a few times. its basicly like the TALK ABOUT ANYTHING YOU LIKE part but a bit more extreme.
plasterjfe
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EXTREME ? i bet its where all the slaggin off goes on and the b1tch1n
murplastering
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any of you see them spacers you can get they go between the socket and the backbox stops you getting over excited
kirk johnstone
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plasterjfe said:
that only seems to happen on my posts haha dont know why, some people on here must hate me?
i thought i was quite a nice guy, well at least thats what my mum told me ;D
kirk johnstone
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bit of a shock makes you go faster. why is it when you do get a shock you make a stupid noise wwooooeeeeeiiiiiirrrrrr fuk fuk fuk shi't ssssshhhhhhh the customer might be listening 
PhilPlaster
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The Reputation count goes up with your posts. It has nothing to do with people thanking you. It was goin up before the heart thing became visible.kirk johnstone said:plasterjfe said:
to be honest mate av been a higher class member a few times but my posts get deleted and i become a newbi again haha, dont worry you aint missin much in the private members bit mate.
also i dont argue mate. everyone is entitled to there own opinion, but the thing with me is i wont have people take the (french word). i dont mind disagreement but if someone trys to make me look like a mug i get all fired up haha i mean i do a good enough job of makin myself look like a mug without anyone helpin haha am sure everyone will agree.
an i promis you mate i dont care about how many posts i have, i am heare to try and help people and learn myself
skimmin2day
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Electrics and gas are the only things i dont get involved with,so unless the customer doesnt remove them and MAKE SAFE .Ill just skim around them,on 1 room reskims.
Before you all start kicking off shouting bodger,no..... i wouldnt do that in my own house,but i dont have the insurance and if anything went wrong i honestly couldnt fix it.So i leave well alone unless i really like the customer and want to make the effort or becuse it a nice earner.
Alsi I can skim around a socket to a very good standard,so no real problem.
Before you all start kicking off shouting bodger,no..... i wouldnt do that in my own house,but i dont have the insurance and if anything went wrong i honestly couldnt fix it.So i leave well alone unless i really like the customer and want to make the effort or becuse it a nice earner.
Alsi I can skim around a socket to a very good standard,so no real problem.
skimmin2day
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To be honest steve i dont know??? but i highly suspect not.
I no for certain my public liability insurance wont cover me as im not a reistered instaler or certified sparks.Not worth the risk for me ill skim rouns unless its a lucrative job
I no for certain my public liability insurance wont cover me as im not a reistered instaler or certified sparks.Not worth the risk for me ill skim rouns unless its a lucrative job
skimmin2day
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Its not just a case of beeing qualified to do electrics its also a case of will ur liability insurance cover it???
I no for a fact mine doesnt!!! as i havent paid for electrical work cus i aint qualified to do it.
I no for a fact mine doesnt!!! as i havent paid for electrical work cus i aint qualified to do it.
Nisus
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This is what I have been told recently:
As long as your a competent person you are allowed to do a straight swap with a light switch, socket or light fitting in your own house.(so not sure if this counts if you are doing it in a customers house)
But you can't move or extend cable or add extra sockets as this is classed as illegal if your not a fully qualified spark.
Also if you are doing this sort of thing you would need to add it to your public liability insurance to cover your ass!
But a spark did say to me once if we put a new light up we are liable for all the electrics in the house, so if there was a fire we'd be f**k*d.
So if you can avoid it probably best to.
Cause I'm still confused.com about it!
So just get a spark in at £25 per hr but make sure you don't get any dust on his nice clean clothes ;D
As long as your a competent person you are allowed to do a straight swap with a light switch, socket or light fitting in your own house.(so not sure if this counts if you are doing it in a customers house)
But you can't move or extend cable or add extra sockets as this is classed as illegal if your not a fully qualified spark.
Also if you are doing this sort of thing you would need to add it to your public liability insurance to cover your ass!
But a spark did say to me once if we put a new light up we are liable for all the electrics in the house, so if there was a fire we'd be f**k*d.
So if you can avoid it probably best to.
Cause I'm still confused.com about it!
So just get a spark in at £25 per hr but make sure you don't get any dust on his nice clean clothes ;D
PhilPlaster
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Oh great some thing else to worry about! I always take the sockets off and skim behind but now Im not so sure.
I always knew the risks but when you hear someone else talk about you fears its only a matter of time!!! :'(
I always knew the risks but when you hear someone else talk about you fears its only a matter of time!!! :'(
kirk johnstone
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Bruce Willis said:
just tell the customers to do it the night before you turn up, if they tell you that they dont want to because they are scared of electric, just say so am i so you will have to phone an electrician who will probably charge you about £40 to take some little screws out and put them back in!
you will be surprised how brave they get when the hear £40
skimmin2day
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By competant in electrics mate they actually mean City & Guilds 2377 City & Guilds 2382 – 17TH Edition EAL VRQ Level 2 for domestic installer as well as passing all the build /elec regs test too.
And this will only allow you to test your own work (not others) and work in domestic dwellings.
Its the same with plumbing mate,if you take rads of and u cause a leek i bet you aint insured through ur liability insurance.
Itys one thing havinhg a puddle of water on the floor to killing someone in a house fire cus of dodgy electrics though.
And this will only allow you to test your own work (not others) and work in domestic dwellings.
Its the same with plumbing mate,if you take rads of and u cause a leek i bet you aint insured through ur liability insurance.
Itys one thing havinhg a puddle of water on the floor to killing someone in a house fire cus of dodgy electrics though.
Nisus
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Bruce Willis said:
Yeah I do to but if your on a job that needs a little electical job doing & your not sure wether you are covered or not best to get a spark in, just put it on your bill.
I know I can do most things a spark can do but I'm not a fully qualified spark so if their was a fire from something I did it just ain't worth the hassle.
Just get em on the job when your there, you know you want to
skimmin2day
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i got a good spark freind that does all my work, and like you i have a basic understanding of electrics and would do my own in my houses,but if the customer doesnt want to pay to get done safely it gets skimmed round.
Same with light fittings before over boarding etc ,ill explain ill switch power off tape up wires and make safe but i wont reinstall the fitting as im not insured.Most will do it them selves any how.
Same with light fittings before over boarding etc ,ill explain ill switch power off tape up wires and make safe but i wont reinstall the fitting as im not insured.Most will do it them selves any how.
kirk johnstone
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to be honest lads the only time you will cause a fire is if you dont tighten the terminals were the wires go in the back of the socket so if you dont take them completely off then you will be fine
skimmin2day
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But u still have a legal requirement to test the circuit after doing any electrical work dont ya???
Its not for me anyhow,i dont do electrics for anyone but myself asnd a select few customers.
Its not for me anyhow,i dont do electrics for anyone but myself asnd a select few customers.
kirk johnstone
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yes but just taking two screws out of the socket front and pulling it away from the wall slightly isnt affecting anything to do with the electrics so you dont have to test it mate
skimmin2day
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Yeah you right,but i dont do electrcis.had problems in the past with 2-3 way switches trying to help people out just seems to bite ya,so i just dont bother same as sparks dont bother patching there own plastering.
i remeber once mate taking down a light fitting to overboard a large ceiling, as i was jus undoing the screws to lower to map where all the wires went there must of been 10 wires coming into the fitting i struglled for hours to get them all back in and secure and each time i lifted light back to ceiling and secured it and tested one set of lights wouldnt work.
In the end i had to get a sparky in to sort it,cost me £60 for a £200 overboard + skim that took in the end a whole long long day.
never bothered since that day with electrics
i remeber once mate taking down a light fitting to overboard a large ceiling, as i was jus undoing the screws to lower to map where all the wires went there must of been 10 wires coming into the fitting i struglled for hours to get them all back in and secure and each time i lifted light back to ceiling and secured it and tested one set of lights wouldnt work.
In the end i had to get a sparky in to sort it,cost me £60 for a £200 overboard + skim that took in the end a whole long long day.
never bothered since that day with electrics
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