I do mate and some salt and vinegar crisps . And can you go finish that room of for me as I the thought of it f**k**g pains me
With all due respect to plasterers, by no measure (physically, mentally, skill level, overheads, training length/cost) is it one of the hardest trades. That's not to say it isn't a skill which requires graft but it's not at the top.
The age thing is definitely a problem on the horizon. Just from observation there seems to be two or three times as many leaving trades than there are starting.we've 20 sites on
there flying up to quick
full of young joiners
rest are old age geezers lolView attachment 62226
I've given up on the idea of a youngster/apprentice, which is a shame both for me and them really. There's a huge amount of knowledge, information, contacts and mistakes which don't need to be made again, that will retire with me. Not to mention a fully operational profitable business with a good reputation which will cease trading.il be honest mate
my young man I have is fuucking useless
has absolutely no brains or stamina
can't think for himself and wants an easy ride
as from Monday his holiday times are over
I need to be firmer with him
feels like I'm gonna break his heart when I tell him he's doing wrong
I've given up on the idea of a youngster/apprentice, which is a shame both for me and them really. There's a huge amount of knowledge, information, contacts and mistakes which don't need to be made again, that will retire with me. Not to mention a fully operational profitable business with a good reputation which will cease trading.
Still, on the plus side I shall enjoy watching it all unfold when a generation of influencers, game developers, media studies graduates and nearly great football players suddenly realise they have no clue how to build or fix anything.
Pretty much, but then I'm fairly confident that there were similar thoughts and conversations in the boozer during the '70s and '80s. They were right then just as we are now.a generation of cuunts basically
Pretty much, but then I'm fairly confident that there were similar thoughts and conversations in the boozer during the '70s and '80s. They were right then just as we are now.
A plumber once made a similar point to me
It's not a criticism of plasterers, it's just that comparing the rates different trades charge is comparing apples with oranges.
do you not do any internal plastering owls, i mean well done doing nothing but rendering in this country with this climate, you would make a fortune down south and a better climate
mate has a scaffolding buisness, he tells me he needs an income of 17,000 quid a week every week just to stand still, thats all his overheads, office staff/ employs a mechanic /scaffolders/rates/electric/fuel/ insurance etc etc etc
Half that then he's telling truth
Any decent site spread is pissing over what a site spark is earning down where I am , Not even closeIt's not a criticism of plasterers, it's just that comparing the rates different trades charge is comparing apples with oranges.
When it happens it always reminds me of the same chat starting in the site canteen, '87 or '88, between a sparky and a Scottish spread. The spread was moaning that the sparkies were getting paid a fortune and turning up at 10:00. There was the usual back and forth, then the sparky got a bit too cocky and said
"Well you should have worked harder at school and then you wouldn't have to now."
Whilst that was probably true, it really wasn't the best idea to actually say it.
"Are ye calling me thick ya c**t?"
and just like that it all kicked off. Tea and sandwiches knocked all over the place, sparkies and spread knocking lumps out of one another, and the Geordie chippy I shared a lift with pulling me off to one side "Leave 'em to it lad."
Simpler happier times.
U sweatys fight with your head, don’t even know how to fight properly lol
A guy down in our area got a scaffold firm. call him multi millionaire Matt I bet his outgoings are probably more
just what he says spud, he has been in buisness 41 years, dont think he has anything to prove to anybody
A Focus estate
He’d be a smart owner of a business, “It’s not what you got, it’s what you owe”
I used to, but moved away from internals about 10 years ago, it just became a race to the bottom and margins getting squeezed etc.
on holiday in helmsley last year and had a walk one day onto a bank that was being renovated, talked to 2 buiders and they were saying the same at helmsley, winters definately milder and even sutton bank not as blocked as in previous years, going back to helmsley in september, 10 years on the trot
A good pall of mine runs a decent size roofing outfit, he tells me his outgoings are north of 100 grand a month, so you'd think he'd be doing alright in life,yet he's still as tight as a camels arse in a sandstorm...worry is all relative isn't it, a one man band spread can worry about finding work, and putting food on the table.
And the money you earn lolI've finally gave up mate
4 contract phones in this house
all sharing 1 charger
Just use yer MacBook Profed up with the arseholes breaking everything
anyway my turn for the charger now
Similar situation for me, find it harder getting decent lads than finding work at the moment
Not many ‘average’ jobs pay £150 a day Danny
no... but holiday pay being able to switch off and basically having an easier life
