Starting out, advice please.

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Tommyboy10

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Hi guys
just starting out and wanted to know what would be a good day rate to give to start getting work and if in the future I should put it up?

Also would you advertise everywhere as much as you can,and what kind of advertisement should I be doing?

And what are your views on vans, sizes and make?
i am from the south west Somerset south Bristol.

Thanks
 
alreet marra...welcome to the forum................What day rate were you getting before you went on ya own??

word of mouth is your best advertisment then the internet after that

what size van can you afford??
 
It depends on how much you need to earn m8 ,to live and cover your expenses , how much were you thinking then ?
 
hi tommyboy wlcome 2 the forum 8.me and my m8 use astras m8 good size reliable all depends on what u want 2 carry.as 4 ur day rate every1 is different m8.just dont go in 2 high or low.its dog eat dog out at the moment ok.
 
Get something small by way of a van, deliveries for the big stuff, you could pick up something decent at the auctions,Local advertising, local weekly paper, free yell advert helps, printing and distributing leaflets can help also business cards, welcome by the way too.
 
Tommy how long have you been plastering mate and vivaros are shite don't touch them with a barge pole
 
Hi I've got a vivaro and its been pretty good to me so far. I done my apprenticeship in hartcliffe college in Bristol 10 years ago.
 
Tommy how long have you been plastering mate and vivaros are shite don't touch them with a barge pole

Some people are lucky with Vivaros but the majority of them are fookin shite. They look the part but have nothing but problems. Get a Tranny. (Transit.....not transvestite)
 
The only thing you need to watch out for with Transits is the gear shift mech where it joins the gearbox. Crap blows in and it can seize up giving you only 3rd and 4th gear. Give it a spray with oil every couple of months or so. (our last van had this happen and a mates van had it happen - managed to free after half an hour. Other than that Transits are good workhorses.
 
Ok guys thanks for all the advice I was swaying towards the transit connect or new shape Astra van, will get me going for abit anyway, as to do with pricing I have a rough idea just takes a bit of trail and error.
 
Welcome m8, well done starting out for yourself. Regards a van, its a workhorse, if you can get a decent ldv convoy or transit with the 2.5di engine you won't go far wrong, simple and basic, less to go wrong. No big unwanted bills and bullet proof, good on fuel too. If a bit slack on plastering you can do removals lol.
 
ive got a vauxhall combo.. i always slate it and threaten to get a bigger van coz im always struggling for space but realisticly its canny and cheaper to run than a tranny size van. i get alot of gear delivered and deliverys free so it makes sence
 
get a mazda b2500 pick up truck or a ford ranger pick up 4wd. they are the same motor just different badges. the 2 door long bed type, not the double cab type. these 4wd are a lot lower then the other pick ups. quick loading, carry a ton, put 8 x 4 sheets on back , you can lift a belle mixer on to the butt on your own.
 
do you mean the 2wd malc i have the 4wd and its quite high i cnt get into the back without jumping haha
 
do you mean the 2wd malc i have the 4wd and its quite high i cnt get into the back without jumping haha

i prefer the 4wd the 2wd is to light on the back in bad weather. i can lift a belle mixer on to these trucks. and the vauhall brava 4wd.
the toyota 4wd is to high as is the dodge
 
Tommy, I assume when you say that you're "just starting out" you mean that you were labouring for someone to gain experience and after learning the trade you've decided to start up on your own? If this is the case and money isn't the overriding issue at the moment, I would suggest that you accept as many jobs as you can to gain more experience. In time, you'll be able to command a better price but it all depends on how consistent your work is. Remember one thing:

"It takes years to build up your reputation, but you can lose it in a instant"

Always work to the best of your ability. For example, if you happen to meet a builder who gives you work, ensure that your work is always good, otherwise, he will lose faith in you and will become relunctant to use you in future.

For advertising, simply print out some leaflets and go leaflet dropping. Target your local area first and as you gain more experience, start dropping leaflets in the more affluent areas. If you have any independent shops that are related to refurbishment ie kitchen fitters, go in and introduce yourself and ask whether you can leave leaflets with them.

When you buy your first van, don't go for glamour. Go for something cheap and reliable: an old transit with a 100,000 miles plus on the clock is ideal. Don't be concerned with minor dents and scratches: your only concern is that it gets you from A to B and B to A again, day in day out. When you become more established and begin to make more money, you can then splash out on a nice van.

Keep whatever savings you have and spent it wisely because work might be really slow at the beginning and you'll need that money to cover any down periods.
 
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I have had old vans in my early days because that's all I could afford. But old vans let you down and cost you days off work. For the last 30 years I have bought new. Kept them in good condition and serviced them regular. I used to have them for 3 years but my first Nissan lasted me 13 years with no problems. My second Nissan I had 6 years with no problems but it was as bumpy as hell. In 2009 I came across a bargain pre reg Nissan and bought it to replace the bumpy ride one. It has cost me a service in 2011 at £180 and thats it! Fair doo's I only clock 8k a year!

For me its the newer vans. I see local builders running around in rust buckets but buy new cars? A van makes you your living a car costs you your living.
 
If you buy a new van you're tied up alot more financially and commitment wise its defginately the worse thing you can do if you're straying out
 
If you buy a new van you're tied up alot more financially and commitment wise its defginately the worse thing you can do if you're straying out
Been drinking Dave ,i am the only one that knew what you typed ,with my spelling i have learned to guess read :RpS_biggrin:
 
What van u working out spunky? lol, Good luck going on your own fella. Ive been through vans like ive been through flatbrushes allways breaking down at the wost moment. Now my baby of a black shiney vivaro has been crushed in to a can of pepsi max for reasons id rather not get in to :RpS_crying: I loved that van apart from the handles falling off, the sliding door falling off, the suspension goin, the speacial locking wheel nut i lost to take off the spare tyre on the moterway working in wales. But yeah never buy a van of another plasterer we know beter than any1 u can only keep it clean for so long.
 
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