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Thing is GPS is that Icke is saying that the world is run by these few families. If this is the case, it makes no difference whether we're in or out of the EU. By posting this video you've shot yourself in foot mate.
 
gps said:
Lol, what are you on about ?

Clearly the point is immigration and why it needs to be took out of the hands of the unelected eu and why the one government United States of Europe which is happening before your very eyes we need no part of.

And yes for several years I have watched infowars to answer your question
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But did you listen to what they say?
gps said:
@vfr12 take a look at the bilderberg group the oh so secretive yearly meetings with no minutes ever being taken, nothing being released to media for reporting.

You all laugh at farage but he is bang on the money
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It's a real joke when you say that. What do you think, I don't want the same things like you? /I am on the stay bench from now, don't forget./
I do want to control the immigration , to have back control,to see this country prosper, to have happy life etc etc. We have problems and we deal with them, but here is the difference between us. We look deep at the problem , make a plan and then make our move. And what do you do? Quite the opposite , which makes me sorry tbh, cos we had one chance to do it proper and you have wasted it for the sake of a bit publicity. What have you done is won the battle, but lost the war and therefore the great plan that this country had will be washed off with impulsive and non stratigical actions you have caused. You want to get rid of the eu politicians? How naive! They have never been a problem for you! Your real problem is the domestic parasites in Westminster and number 10. You don't have to look further or me doing copy/paste headlines to show you, just look what happened to the leave campaign politicians- stabbed in he back and thrown in the ditch. I have to agree, for once I got it wrong- in my earlier post I have predicted this to happen when we pay back for our adventure, but it happened before even started. Where is Nigel , Boris at the moment? Says it all actually and there is no surgery in this world that can help you to see the big picture in prospective ? So sad!!!!!
 
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Pug said:
Thing is GPS is that Icke is saying that the world is run by these few families. If this is the case, it makes no difference whether we're in or out of the EU. By posting this video you've shot yourself in foot mate.
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Not really, because we have voted to take our borders back correct ?

The purpose of posting the video was for those who believe we are better off in the eu and to show the road we are heading down by staying in.
 
But, according to Icke, our leaders are puppets, controlled by the same puppet masters as all governments.
 
vfr12 said:
But did you listen to what they say?


It's a real joke when you say that. What do you think, I don't want the same things like you? /I am on the stay bench from now, don't forget./
I do want to control the immigration , to have back control,to see this country prosper, to have happy life etc etc. We have problems and we deal with them, but here is the difference between us. We look deep at the problem , make a plan and then make our move. And what do you do? Quite the opposite , which makes me sorry tbh, cos we had one chance to do it proper and you have wasted it for the sake of a bit publicity. What have you done is won the battle, but lost the war and therefore the great plan that this country had will be washed off with impulsive and non stratigical actions you have caused. You won't to get rid of the eu politicians? How naive! They have never been a problem for you! Your real problem is the domestic parasites in Westminster and number 10. You don't have to look further or me doing copy/paste headlines to show you, just look what happened to the leave campaign politicians- stabbed in he back and thrown in the ditch. I have to agree, for once I got it wrong- in my earlier post I have predicted this to happen when we pay back for our adventure, but it happened before even started. Where is Nigel , Boris at the moment? Says it all actually and there is no surgery in this world that can help you to see the big picture in prospective ? So sad!!!!!
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The great plan to be part of the United States of Europe.

We are Great Britain my friend we can stand tall and proud in this world and will prosper more outside the USE
 
Pug said:
But, according to Icke, our leaders are puppets, controlled by the same puppet masters as all governments.
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Well look David Cameron was always anti eu then he announced the referendum and all of a sudden become so pro eu it was clear something was amiss
 
gps said:
The great plan to be part of the United States of Europe.

We are Great Britain my friend we can stand tall and proud in this world and will prosper more outside the USE
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How? What's the plan in long term?
 
gps said:
Come on man we have been over this already within the thread, come up with something new
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Never with a plan tho! I am really struggling to ask any questions more tbh. I wasn't decided , liked the leave idea, tried to find more facts to vote with clear head, but didn't liked the way it went at the end ,just pure populism and didn't vote. Now I know, I should of vote stay, at least for that I am grateful I participated in this conversation . What's the point asking questions when you get questions back.How is control our borders, immigration and leave eu a plan?Thats the target, but how we do that, the way we do it and how long will it take, is the actual plan and as a winner you should have one!
 
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vfr12 said:
Never with a plan tho! I am really struggling to ask any questions more tbh. I wasn't decided , liked the leave idea, tried to find more facts to vote with clear head, but didn't liked the way it went at the end ,just pure populism and didn't vote. Now I know, I should of vote stay, at least for that I am grateful I participated in this conversation . What's the point asking questions when you get answers back.How is control our borders, immigration and leave eu a plan?Thats the target, but how we do that, the way we do it and how long will it take, is the actual plan and as a winner you should have one!
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Lol unbelievable, so you would of been happy to be in the United States of Europe ?

You do know that one week after brexit a trade deal between the us/uk has gone to congress that Australia and New Zealand are fighting to see who can get a trade deal first you know this right ? No plan in place though apparently
 
gps said:
Lol unbelievable, so you would of been happy to be in the United States of Europe ?

You do know that one week after brexit a trade deal between the us/uk has gone to congress that Australia and New Zealand are fighting to see who can get a trade deal first you know this right ? No plan in place though apparently
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In reality what makes you think it's a good deal for the uk to import agricultural products from as far as them 2 countries who are able to produce and ship their products to the uk cheaper than a uk farmer? I'd say stuff em both and let the British farmers have some of that meat not just a bone

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zolco said:
In reality what makes you think it's a good deal for the uk to import agricultural products from as far as them 2 countries who are able to produce and ship their products to the uk cheaper than a uk farmer? I'd say stuff em both and let the British farmers have some of that meat not just a bone

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I never said that but whilst you bring it up why restrict British farmers from exporting there ?
 
The important thing that I feel the remainers really miss is what do we actually gain by being in the eu? We put money in 2nd highest payer into a system to be then told what we can and can't do? The Germans tried with two world wars to gain what they are doing now only this is by the back door, I hope your happy to be ruled by these people perhaps your be happy to pack your bags and go live in one super state that controls everything, if the euro currency is so good why do we not buy stocks and shares in it,the Greek bail out went well didn't it, Portugal Spain and Italy all in the euro with mass unemployment, the left are seriously the mental ones how can you preach democracy yet a week after losing your still going on marches you want to break up our great army to create one army do me a favour you say we are brain washed but have a look at yourself a for goodness sake,women over Europe being raped by immigrants from refugees from Syria and Iraq I sure don't want to live in a society where this becomes except able and my daughter becomes the victim one day 52% won you need to get over it and stop putting Great Britain down,please give me ten things that would make me want to be part of the eu, me and gps have listed loads of why we better off out but all we get from you lot is a question answered with a question no proper answers fed up of this left wing bollox when you got wankers like geldof brand on your side I know which side of the fence I will sit can almost hear the cries of racist now
 
gps said:
I never said that but whilst you bring it up why restrict British farmers from exporting there ?
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Cos it's ain't worth it for them, AU and NZ only able to bring it in here as they get heavily subsidised by their own government.


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zolco said:
Cos it's ain't worth it for them, AU and NZ only able to bring it in here as they get heavily subsidised by their own government.


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I didn't realise you was a member of the NFU
 
Pagey said:
The important thing that I feel the remainers really miss is what do we actually gain by being in the eu? We put money in 2nd highest payer into a system to be then told what we can and can't do? The Germans tried with two world wars to gain what they are doing now only this is by the back door, I hope your happy to be ruled by these people perhaps your be happy to pack your bags and go live in one super state that controls everything, if the euro currency is so good why do we not buy stocks and shares in it,the Greek bail out went well didn't it, Portugal Spain and Italy all in the euro with mass unemployment, the left are seriously the mental ones how can you preach democracy yet a week after losing your still going on marches you want to break up our great army to create one army do me a favour you say we are brain washed but have a look at yourself a for goodness sake,women over Europe being raped by immigrants from refugees from Syria and Iraq I sure don't want to live in a society where this becomes except able and my daughter becomes the victim one day 52% won you need to get over it and stop putting Great Britain down,please give me ten things that would make me want to be part of the eu, me and gps have listed loads of why we better off out but all we get from you lot is a question answered with a question no proper answers fed up of this left wing bollox when you got wankers like geldof brand on your side I know which side of the fence I will sit can almost hear the cries of racist now
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cant really argue with that, point well made.
 
owls said:
cant really argue with that, point well made.
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Cheers mate I'm sick of the left wing preaching about democracy and when they get a democratic vote with a democratic victory by the opposite party it becomes not democratic in their eyes, all we get is questions but I want answers to my questions ones that could actually make me think hmm maybe I got it wrong but realistically they have none and then expect me to just keep giving them answers how is this fair
 
don't get me wrong there are pros of staying in the eu, but for me the pros for leaving outweighed them, hence why I voted to leave, a simplistic view maybe but that was my school of thought.
the certain remain side that have issues and are kicking up a stink, need to accept the result of democracy and move forward with it, whether they agree with the reasons or not. bitterness and resentment is a horrible trait.
 
Think this is going round in circles now as I feel me and gps have made many points and highlighted many things yet we still get asked questions we do answer them but in a typical left wing view you only hear what you want to hear and can never be wrong,you lost a democratic vote so you are the ones who have to deal with it not me,I will bet any money if leave had lost which many predicted you wouldn't see us protesting and stamping our feet we would of just had to of accepted it, u won't listen or believe what is happening or is going to happen and brand it as lies well when the day comes that it turns out it wasn't lies what is the next thing u will moan about? I think I've covered all there is to cover and as I'm not getting back what I want I feel it's time to walk away until I get some real answers in a democratic way and to debate properly
 
Pagey said:
Think this is going round in circles now as I feel me and gps have made many points and highlighted many things yet we still get asked questions we do answer them but in a typical left wing view you only hear what you want to hear and can never be wrong,you lost a democratic vote so you are the ones who have to deal with it not me,I will bet any money if leave had lost which many predicted you wouldn't see us protesting and stamping our feet we would of just had to of accepted it, u won't listen or believe what is happening or is going to happen and brand it as lies well when the day comes that it turns out it wasn't lies what is the next thing u will moan about? I think I've covered all there is to cover and as I'm not getting back what I want I feel it's time to walk away until I get some real answers in a democratic way and to debate properly
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get in there pagey
 
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