superspread
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They can arc if not screwed in securely .
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They can arc if not screwed in securely .
CeeVee
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:RpS_lol:
CeeVee
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Surely not if an rcd is fitted as in most modern fuseboards?
SpankySouthport
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Yeah man! You can take them off and put them back also within the law, providing you are competent..
superspread
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Your be surprised how many people haven't got rcd,me one of them,anyway cv why take a chance,if the client don't wanna pay for a spark why should I put my neck on the line,to save them 50 quid.
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Fourplastering
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The other question you have to ask yourselves is, does you insurance cover you for electrical works?
Rossi46
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Competent meaning you can use a screwdriver? Competents a bit vague.
Minh
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You have misinterpreted the requirements. It states that work must be done in accordance with Part P but will ESCAPE the notification requirement. This means that it does not need to be done by an electrician.
Fatarm
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Phew !!! Thank feck for that..... was shitting. myself there.:RpS_scared: manslaughter charges!..people getting killed:RpS_crying:.
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.wish I was as good as jase the ace:RpS_crying:
SpankySouthport
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Think it's supposed to sound a bit vague lol as in who ever takes it on should know they are competent ( to screw 3 wires into a socket) :rolleyes)
CeeVee
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Whatever the legal requirements...I will continue to unscrew sockets, but leave them connected, so I can plaster behind the socket fronts and make a nice professional job.
Never had any comebacks (touch wood) in 15 years, so I would like to think I actually KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.
Never had any comebacks (touch wood) in 15 years, so I would like to think I actually KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.
martinemj
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some work done last yr in germany ...thought the plastic caps were great...just skim around
https://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab161/martinemj/germany 2012/2012-07-02120607.jpg
Mike814
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Absolutely right. As long as new circuits and extensions to circuits are not being added on anyone can legally remove and replace or change socket fronts and light fittings. Keep removing them to do a decent job chaps because you can legally!!!
And as much as i hate to admit this i am a qualified sparks by trade although do more plastering than anything else these days!!!!!
Nisus
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I've always loosened them off & wrap a carrier bag around then tape it.
Then remove bag & refix the 2 screws, so easy.
But what p1sses me off though is when they get the sparks in to rewire a kitchen & add sockets everywhere & they 1st & 2nd fix it before you go in FFS! :RpS_cursing:
Then you have to spend ages unscrewing the new sockets & bag em up when there's no need if they had just first fixed it like it should be done! :RpS_mad:
Then remove bag & refix the 2 screws, so easy.
But what p1sses me off though is when they get the sparks in to rewire a kitchen & add sockets everywhere & they 1st & 2nd fix it before you go in FFS! :RpS_cursing:
Then you have to spend ages unscrewing the new sockets & bag em up when there's no need if they had just first fixed it like it should be done! :RpS_mad:
johniosaif
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I think the same, the sparky just wants his bit finished and get his wage even though he knows you are going to take them off again, a clever sparky would wait as the moisture can damage sockets causing rust and also can cause a connection leading to shocks but everything is about getting it done cheap thes days, we have had rads fixed on new boarded walls also.
Fatarm
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Lol its complicated tho? :-0
johniosaif
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Surprised that the never came in here, they are so handy and can be used over and over again, compared to clean boxes out square
Nisus
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But 1 page is posts about the threat of jail & a legal lecture. :rolleyes)
johniosaif
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Why is it so contentious ? Common sense to take them off and protect them ..
finefinishwales
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finefinishwales
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Your the man lol hope your luck keeps up i'll keep my fingers crossed for you!
finefinishwales
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Yer Yer always one troll you got no intelligent input?
Arti
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:RpS_laugh:.....................there is always someone from the fun police on here.............FFW.......................:RpS_wink:
Fatarm
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eh??
John I know??? I take the fronts off and bag them,I don't disconnect them, I just thought it got complicated with all the leagal stuff, jail ,competent persons, regulations etc. if someone wants to take the wires out and put them back in, I don't have a prob with that. I just didn't relise. some people though it was a major problem?
beader
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Me and mrs Beader went to look at some brand new houses the other week and to my horror saw that when they had been painted the painters had not bothered to remove or loosen off the socket faces and had got paint all around the edges of brand new fittings ffs.It made it all look sh1t and a poor standard of workmanship.As the enemy was quick to point out ,it was only a small thing and they would clean off, but to me its in the details that make the difference between a good job and a bad job. A bit of a tangent but before i plaster around door frames i always run some masking tape over the front of the frame and plaster away without having to scrape the frames clean. Then when the last trowel is done just peel of the tape and whala, nice clean crisp door frames. A bit anal but i is wot i is.
johniosaif
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I was not disagreeing with you,just saying how mad it is re all the opinions,jail time included ha haeh??
User________removed
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Mike do you tuck your own wires in ? sorry bud couldn't resist..
stuart23
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I mask them and plaster up to them with first coat, same with second coat but after first flatten of second coat i remove screws and pull socket clear then fill round behind it with gear before first polish. When done just screw them back to wall. Used to remove before first coat but then run the risk of dropping gear on them unless you bag them.
Gazmonster
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Take the front off then bag and tape with sparky tape. I also roll the screws up in a bit of tape and stick them to the front. I always give the customer the option of me putting them back on or leaving as is for decorating. Dont forget to remind the customers that the fronts are off if they have kids as fried child looks bad on your rep :RpS_laugh:
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