Thistle Undercoats Q&A

[BritishGypsum]

Hi all,

It’s time for another Q&A! This time we’ll be looking at Thistle Undercoat Plasters on 7th October at 4pm.

As usual, we’ll be taking live questions for an hour but let us know if you have any in advance - our favourite may just win a prize!

Cheers,
British Gypsum

 

[pftmonojetman]

Is floating becoming popular again?, is production up for hardwall, tough coat etc. Seems to be more about than I've seen for a few years,imo, I've never been a fan of dabbing,

 

[irish_spread]

Is present day bonding just hardwall in a different bag ?
It has a different texture than it had yrs ago

 

[dustydave]

When will we see a fast setting undercoat. Or an accelerator to add to it.?
Would be ideal on domestics. Time is money after all.

 

[kgreigh]

When will we see a fast setting undercoat. Or an accelerator to add to it.?
Would be ideal on domestics. Time is money after all.

I could have done with that today,I waited for what seemed an age to skim a tiny patch.an accelerator would be good with say x scoops per bag for 1h set x for 45minute set and so on.i think the same would be great for skim too you could buy a tub and keep it in the van for when it's needed.

 

[beddy]

Why let them charge a ridiculous amount for a super duper quick setting backing coat when a handful of cement does the trick

 

[beddy]

I would like a gypsum based backing coat that designed to skim next day personally. I prefer to float all day and skim next, which at the moment means having to give it a weak pva before skimming. Dri coat is too expensive to use regularly and Sand and cement is too much hassle for internals.

 

[Jgreenplastering]

I could have done with that today,I waited for what seemed an age to skim a tiny patch.an accelerator would be good with say x scoops per bag for 1h set x for 45minute set and so on.i think the same would be great for skim too you could buy a tub and keep it in the van for when it's needed.

I've just tried out a new quick set bonding for them that might make it to the market.
Good bit of kit.
60 min set.
Great for patches etc that you mention.

 

[kgreigh]

I've just tried out a new quick set bonding for them that might make it to the market.
Good bit of kit.
60 min set.
Great for patches etc that you mention.

The only downfall with that is that only a few merchants will stock it because they may not sell enough before it goes ood,at least the addative accelerator will last on the shelf for a longer period and you can also choose how long the set is.

 

[jamesthefirst]

The irish lads have had the self levelling hardwall for a while!

 

[superspread]

Hi all,

It’s time for another Q&A! This time we’ll be looking at Thistle Undercoat Plasters on 7th October at 4pm.

As usual, we’ll be taking live questions for an hour but let us know if you have any in advance - our favourite may just win a prize!

Cheers,
British Gypsum

Can we put to bed , that you can use hardwall on solid 9" brickwork outside walls ( not out outside ) hope so cos that's what your tech dept AV been telling me for years , it replaced renovation plaster

 

[user__removed]

I would like a gypsum based backing coat that designed to skim next day personally. I prefer to float all day and skim next, which at the moment means having to give it a weak pva before skimming. Dri coat is too expensive to use regularly and Sand and cement is too much hassle for internals.

Stick waterproofer in it.

 

[zolco]

Stick waterproofer in it.

That only works with bonding! ;-)

 

[jamesthefirst]

Can we put to bed , that you can use hardwall on solid 9" brickwork outside walls ( not out outside ) hope so cos that's what your tech dept AV been telling me for years , it replaced renovation plaster

Thats why it smells so bad!
Did BG do renovating, i cant remember.?

 

[superspread]

Thats why it smells so bad!
Did BG do renovating, i cant remember.?

Yea I used it loads of times , then they stopped producing it probably about 10/12 years ago, and when I phoned there tech dept they advised me that hardwall was now doing that job

 

[irish_spread]

@BritishGypsum . I'm doing a job near your factory in a couple of weeks. I'm gonna need 30 bags of hardwall. If I called in and collected it, how much a bag would it be ?, bearing in mind you don't have to deliver it.

Oh, and it would be cash too

 

[Jgreenplastering]

@BritishGypsum . I'm doing a job near your factory in a couple of weeks. I'm gonna need 30 bags of hardwall. If I called in and collected it, how much a bag would it be ?, bearing in mind you don't have to deliver it.

Oh, and it would be cash too

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[CTPlastering]

@BritishGypsum . I'm doing a job near your factory in a couple of weeks. I'm gonna need 30 bags of hardwall. If I called in and collected it, how much a bag would it be ?, bearing in mind you don't have to deliver it.

Oh, and it would be cash too

U reel them in mate ;-)

 

[zolco]

@BritishGypsum . I'm doing a job near your factory in a couple of weeks. I'm gonna need 30 bags of hardwall. If I called in and collected it, how much a bag would it be ?, bearing in mind you don't have to deliver it.

Oh, and it would be cash too

They will pay you to take it away

 

[irish_spread]

@BritishGypsum . Thanks for the PM with kind offers of cheap gear with lumps in but I can get them from wickes or bandq with easier to open bags. I was thinking I could collect the bags from further inside the factory where they wouldn't be as open as the ones near the exit of your factory.

As I said, cash, no questions asked.

Maybe I should mention there maybe two more houses after this

 

[Jgreenplastering]

@BritishGypsum . Thanks for the PM with kind offers of cheap gear with lumps in but I can get them from wickes or bandq with easier to open bags. I was thinking I could collect the bags from further inside the factory where they wouldn't be as open as the ones near the exit of your factory.

As I said, cash, no questions asked.

Maybe I should mention there maybe two more houses after this

You crack me up!

 

[kgreigh]

Do you have any new base coats in the pipeline?given the choice a lot of spreads would chose to use s&c over gypsum based backing coats

 

[carlos]

Good shout that.

A backing plaster is similar to s+c but light weight and better coverage.

A cheaper version of dri coat??

 

[kgreigh]

Yes something with a bit of texture like s&c but light weight,easier than hardwall to float up and no or minimal priming or wetting down before you skim it.

 

[irish_spread]

And self levelling

 

[kgreigh]

And self levelling

You read my mind

 

[flynnyman]

Maybe if you went in with a shovel and a pick and bagged it yourself? Maybe even barrow it straight to the job? Gotta be cheaper

 

[irish_spread]

Maybe if you went in with a shovel and a pick and bagged it yourself? Maybe even barrow it straight to the job? Gotta be cheaper

Good point. But how would you get the big lumps into the delicate bags ?
Leave it to BG, they've been experts at feckin it up since 2009

 

[nickelarse]

In Boston they sell accelerator and retarder in packets with cut off amounts per time required. Just cut off the time u want and add it. Obviously that's too complicated for England. We use that precise dirty water bit of cement oh s**t it's going hard in the tub technique

 

[superspread]

Maybe if you went in with a shovel and a pick and bagged it yourself? Maybe even barrow it straight to the job? Gotta be cheaper

What u trying to say , that's a bit stereo typing and racialist to our future mod and resident forum member @irish_spread

 

[flynnyman]

What u trying to say , that's a bit stereo typing and racialist to our future mod and resident forum member @irish_spread

Out of your mouth

 

[superspread]

Out of your mouth

Is this your new quote now when u can't answer

 

[flynnyman]

Is this your new quote now when u can't answer

It's my new quote when someone says something and tries to make out someone else said it

 

[superspread]

It's my new quote when someone says something and tries to make out someone else said it

 

[BritishGypsum]

Thanks for the questions so far everyone - there's some good ones in there

Just a reminder that we'll be live at 4pm today, so we'll see you then!