Trowel Float trowel

[Arti]

Been skimming over artex all week and i was taught to use the trowel float trowel process for going over artex. Just wondered if anyone else did this??

 

[theclemo]

no not me

 

[Gibbo]

Yeah best way arty

 

[Jace]

so just to clarify you lay on with trowel first coat then flatten with trowel? or float?, what do you lay in with float or trowel?
are you talking about a poly float sounds bloody awkward.
explain please

 

[essexandy]

It's a complete waste of time as Gary knows full well.

 

[Arti]

so just to clarify you lay on with trowel first coat then flatten with trowel? or float?, what do you lay in with float or trowel?
are you talking about a poly float sounds bloody awkward.
explain please

1st coat with ya steel, 2nd coat with wooden/plastic float (this highlights & fills in the hollows beter cos its ridgid) then lay it all in with ya steel

 

[spread1970]

that was how i was taught to set a wall....must admit it gives a better finish.

 

[JamieMac]

prefer bonding with a drop of multi through it.flatten then a coat of multi.for going over artex.

 

[jamesthefirst]

1st coat with ya steel, 2nd coat with wooden/plastic float (this highlights & fills in the hollows beter cos its ridgid) then lay it all in with ya steel

This is how we should skim onto plaster board followed by a third final coat with your steel. Nobody would have the patience to do that nowadays.

 

[spunky]

You should get it on tight as poss 1 coat if you want it flat as poss

 

[malc]

i was taught to do walls in sirapite plaster first coat put on with a float second coat layed on with a trowel. this was at a time when plasterers used to cross grain the wall. this all died out when price work took over from daywork.

 

[spread1970]

i was taught plumb and dot....wonder if anyone on here actualy used this method in anger?

 

[superspread]

Been skimming over artex all week and i was taught to use the trowel float trowel process for going over artex. Just wondered if anyone else did this??

at last someone on here that knows what they re talking about, thats the proper way.

 

[DannyMac]

at last someone on here that knows what they re talking about

That's a bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?

 

[superspread]

That's a bit of a sweeping statement don't you think?

yea but it sounded good, lol

 

[stuart23]

prefer bonding with a drop of multi through it.flatten then a coat of multi.for going over artex.

My apprentice done this at college and the teacher went nuts at him, i do it all the time.

 

[Arti]

i was taught to do walls in sirapite plaster first coat put on with a float second coat layed on with a trowel. this was at a time when plasterers used to cross grain the wall. this all died out when price work took over from daywork.

Since im just a youngin ive no idea what sirapite plaster is and what cross grain is all about. so educate me please malcolm.............:RpS_thumbup:

 

[malc]

Since im just a youngin ive no idea what sirapite plaster is and what cross grain is all about. so educate me please malcolm.............:RpS_thumbup:

sirapite plaster was a wall finish plaster for sand and cement floating. you apply the first coat with a wooden float then lay down with a trowel. run a cross grained wooden float down the internals, skirting and ceiling lines. when we all went self employed in the 60s it became first coat trowel second coat trowel and no cross graining.

 

[Arti]

Roger....................:RpS_thumbup:

 

[beader]

sirapite plaster was a wall finish plaster for sand and cement floating. you apply the first coat with a wooden float then lay down with a trowel. run a cross grained wooden float down the internals, skirting and ceiling lines. when we all went self employed in the 60s it became first coat trowel second coat trowel and no cross graining.

When you were self employed in the 60's wasn't it called being on the lump ?

 

[malc]

When you were self employed in the 60's wasn't it called being on the lump ?

yes we where on the lump that is where you got a lump price to plaster a house no extras. it was the best time to be a plasterer. there was 10 jobs for everyone. the lump would be about twice what the day worker was paid as we had to pay our own holidays, sick pay and pensions. a three bed house in essex was £4,000 you could save that in 18 months and go out most nights of the week. it has been downhill ever since.

 

[spunky]

You're better of employed nowadays

 

[Arti]

yes we where on the lump that is where you got a lump price to plaster a house no extras. it was the best time to be a plasterer. there was 10 jobs for everyone. the lump would be about twice what the day worker was paid as we had to pay our own holidays, sick pay and pensions. a three bed house in essex was £4,000 you could save that in 18 months and go out most nights of the week. it has been downhill ever since.

was that not the era of free love..........and everyone was mashed on the happy baccy...........:RpS_thumbup:

 

[malc]

You're better of employed nowadays

thats what happened, to many idiots got involved

 

[whitebeam]

1st coat with ya steel, 2nd coat with wooden/plastic float (this highlights & fills in the hollows beter cos its ridgid) then lay it all in with ya steel

I worked with few old fellas who used to work that way back in the early 80's....

 

[malc]

was that not the era of free love..........and everyone was mashed on the happy baccy...........:RpS_thumbup:

we knew that we where living through a special period of time, the beatles, bob dylan, we had money, cars, holidays over seas only things that our parents could dream about. my wages where very high . i do not know about happy baccy but there was people taking pills uppers downers reds yellowsand blues but life always has it casualties

 

[DannyMac]

Old fella that taught me to plaster used to tell me that plastering was one of the best paid jobs. He said any car he wanted he could just buy, no problem. He also said that secretaries were better off these days, company cars...holiday...pensions etc

 

[malc]

plasterers always had expensive cars i have a xkr

 

[Jace]

ive got an expensive to run motor haha would love an xkr

 

[malc]

ive got an expensive to run motor haha would love an xkr

every plasterer i meet says you must be doing something correct, but it is a long story

 

[beader]

yes we where on the lump that is where you got a lump price to plaster a house no extras. it was the best time to be a plasterer. there was 10 jobs for everyone. the lump would be about twice what the day worker was paid as we had to pay our own holidays, sick pay and pensions. a three bed house in essex was £4,000 you could save that in 18 months and go out most nights of the week. it has been downhill ever since.

Was it not self employment in the early days that led to the building strikes of the 60's and 70's and the flying pickets part of which were the shrewsbury 6 and one Ricky Tomlinson, of Brookside and The royal Family fame, that were convicted and jailed for the death of a worker during a protest.? I am sure Ricky Tomlinson was a plasterer by trade as well as a union rep at the time .

 

[spread1970]

I worked with few old fellas who used to work that way back in the early 80's....

this method was recognized by city&guilds as the correct method along with plumb&dot at that time.

 

[spread1970]

Was it not self employment in the early days that led to the building strikes of the 60's and 70's and the flying pickets part of which were the shrewsbury 6 and one Ricky Tomlinson, of Brookside and The royal Family fame, that were convicted and jailed for the death of a worker during a protest.? I am sure Ricky Tomlinson was a plasterer by trade as well as a union rep at the time .

ricky was a spread,but dont think he was at the time of the strikes.he was a union rep,although i don't know what they were over militancy was a major factor!

 

[nickelarse]

sirapite plaster was a wall finish plaster for sand and cement floating. you apply the first coat with a wooden float then lay down with a trowel. run a cross grained wooden float down the internals, skirting and ceiling lines. when we all went self employed in the 60s it became first coat trowel second coat trowel and no cross graining.

how old are you mate?

 

[malc]

Was it not self employment in the early days that led to the building strikes of the 60's and 70's and the flying pickets part of which were the shrewsbury 6 and one Ricky Tomlinson, of Brookside and The royal Family fame, that were convicted and jailed for the death of a worker during a protest.? I am sure Ricky Tomlinson was a plasterer by trade as well as a union rep at the time .

ricky tomlinson was a plasterer i think he was jailed for 6 months. the building industry had been split in two the self employed on the lump and the trade union dayworkers. a building strike was hopeless it would take 6 months before anyone would take any notice. house building was run on the lump, large construction in london you had to have a union card to get any work there. at the time there was a building boom and you could negotiate a lot better rates then the union could offer.