True worth?

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essexandy

essexandy

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OK there have been comments in other posts about plasterers not getting paid what we're really worth, but what are "we" really worth? There are guys on here who can skim but can't float & set, there are guys who can float & set but haven't a clue about external rendering and there are guys that know the trade pretty much inside and out, they used to be called plasterers ;)
Now before you answer bear in mind the following:

Fully qualified teacher with 25 year experience £36'000 a year
Fully qualified GP with years of experience, about £100'000 a year
Fully qualified soldier getting shot at, about £28'000 a year
Police Officer with 25 years experience £36'000 a year
Fully qualified nurse with 25 years experience £26'000 a year

So how much a year for someone who can do the following to a high standard:
Skim
Float & set
Float & set, external render and lay a screed should they need(plasterer)
 
essexandy said:
So how much a year for someone who can do the following to a high standard:
Skim
Float & set
Float & set, external render and lay a screed should they need(plasterer)
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anything over £30k is a good year imo there are a hell of alot of people who get by on less i would never stretch myself financially that i couldnt survive if i was earning less £300 a week
 
30k is about average for a good self employed spread id say dont forget holidays and illness or just plain hungover plus problems with setting work up etc
 
600 per week is 30k so its daywork money on behalf of a plastering contractor who will be subbing to a builder ......its the bottom of the food chain really so im not knocking it but if youre good you should be earning this minimum
 
i think they should get paid at least 150 a day. I got lads on for me who think there worth 150 a day, ask them to do coving they cant, floorscreeds, they dont like doing them ( because they cant) external, They dont like doing that ( because they cant) those types i wouldnt pay more than 120 a day. Some people will think that harsh but if there on a job which has screeds and exteranls i have to get someone else in to do that which costs me time and money. Take my apprentice who will be a qualified spread next week. he cant lay screeds or rule render any sense but he is making noises about more money. I dont think so and if he keeps on it a be a p45 in his next wage pack and i will take his brother on as an apprentice. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
 
spunky said:
600 per week is 30k so its daywork money on behalf of a plastering contractor who will be subbing to a builder ......its the bottom of the food chain really so im not knocking it but if youre good you should be earning this minimum
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bottom of thechain is the cards in guys on £7-9/hour 600/week aint a bad wage and tbh your not likely to be grafting for that
 
let me clarify here im not saying £600 a week or 120 a day im saying with time out for holidays etc its about average if your earning more fair play ive earned loads more in some yrs and I can render screed float and skim cove artex d&d delta mf ceilings and partitions Ive got a good knowledge of most general building as well, what happens when it pisses down and your rained off or if your on machines it breaks down so i say it again 30k a yr aint bad dosh
 
I think 30k a year is about normal and you wouldnt be bustin yer nuts to get it ,but 40k would be a good year imho. :-X :-X :-X
 
i think what simply means is that any good spread worth his salt working on a price would be making 150 a day anyway . i know when i go to work its for one thing only and thats make money not to have a joke on with the lads on sight but everyone to there own
 
dont really worry to much about the money it never seems to be quite enough ,i know ive had a good week if i get a extra bit of me missus sunday mornin ;D ....this week must ave been a bad week :'(
 
murplastering said:
let me clarify here im not saying £600 a week or 120 a day im saying with time out for holidays etc its about average if your earning more fair play ive earned loads more in some yrs and I can render screed float and skim cove artex d&d delta mf ceilings and partitions Ive got a good knowledge of most general building as well, what happens when it (french word)es down and your rained off or if your on machines it breaks down so i say it again 30k a yr aint bad dosh
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agreed ::)
 
Well this has been interesting and the answers were pretty much what I expected.
You've got lads like Grand and Warrior saying they think £50'000 is about right, now if you take four weeks + bank holidays off a year that works out at £215 a day.
Oasis thinks £40'000 a year just to skim, that's £172 a day or @ £3 m2 that's 57 m2 a day after taking the same holidays.
Most of you others think between £30'000 to £40'000 a year is right that's between £129 and £172 a day with said holidays.
And all these figures rely on you having work for 232 days a year and being able to get on and cover enough metres. And which of you do I think is right? Well I think your all right because your worth whatever you can get and people like Grand and Warrior who clearly know their stuff should earn more than most IMO.
Oh and no I don't think you have to be able to screed to call yourself a plasterer, it just helps ;)
 
Andy mate,, u keep talking meters? I'm cosmetic.. i could charge £75 for a patch.. i fink i well worth me £150 a day just to skim.. prep bead up pva over skim/new board work.. and yes i can stud wall dot and dab bond out patch's plasterboard tile paint ect ect some days your earn ur money some days you don't. I have van 2 run,insure, running around given quotes meeting people. working in there house with there carpet ect all the risk is on me so so £150 is fair i fink.. if its less than a days work i look at £120.
 
I used to earn good money not any more :( Its not all its cracked up to being a director i get minimum wage. Probably around 50 a day our lab gets 60 >:(
 
oasis said:
Andy mate,, u keep talking meters? I'm cosmetic.. i could charge £75 for a patch.. i fink i well worth me £150 a day just to skim.. prep bead up pva over skim/new board work.. and yes i can stud wall dot and dab bond out patch's plasterboard tile paint ect ect some days your earn ur money some days you don't. I have van 2 run,insure, running around given quotes meeting people. working in there house with there carpet ect all the risk is on me so so £150 is fair i fink.. if its less than a days work i look at £120.
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You make it sound like I was having a go at you Oasis which I wasn't. I talk in metres beacause apart from you cosmetic ;) plasterers that's what most plasterers go by.
 
ive earned more than a bag of sand for weeks on end up to the end of march 08 but when it came to an end i didnt beat myself up I just took what was going and im steady now I used to be in a gang of 4 now there are 2 of us although we still get together for big stuff I still think im nearer the mark, dont forget running vans and everything else lads
 
The bags of sand have been around again for a few months again around here.After a few easy months i forgot just how hard work is when you have jobs lined up that.
 
so to sum up, we're all worth more than some poor b*****d getting shot at in the desert, or some one in hospital up to her elbows in s**t and puke or getting sworn at by drunks all night in a+e? not sure i agree with that boys...
 
not at all but we as plasterers are not paid too much its the nurses and soldiers ect ect are deeply under valued
 
Pug said:
so to sum up, we're all worth more than some poor b*****d getting shot at in the desert, or some one in hospital up to her elbows in (german word) and puke or getting sworn at by drunks all night in a+e? not sure i agree with that boys...
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Im with you on this mate...... Theres 1 or 2 people on the forum here id like to send to the desert to get shot at. See whats its like to be out in the open and not to have something to hide behind!!
 
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