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It's not just one bloke saying rising damp is a load of bollox. https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk...th-says-former-rics-chief/5204095.fullarticle

It's not difficult to work out. It gets in but can't get out so builds up from the bottom. So you didn't see water rising up the wall with your own two eyes.

Anyway you crack on, you've obviously got it sussed. (y)



I'm not to worried if its 'rising damp' or 'building up damp' all I know is theres damp that has risen or built up this wall and need to establish where exactly where it camr from. Its 100% not water used from the kitchen because its a single guy owns the house and not been in it much. Only bought in Jan and water has been turned off for a year before Jan! Its definitely not a pipe in kitchen behind sink! It's not washing machine. Its not the waste pipe! So need to find out exactly where its coming from.

Its not the mains or the tank in attic so its either. I did a thermal image test on floor and didn't see no hot spots and have exposed 90% of pipes in screed floor. Have the heating header tank floating ball valve tied so will know more if it drops any.

Anyway, fcuk it, this thread was just more to see if anyone knew, how long it would take for water to run skim off a wall like that, but seems no one knows because it hasn't been answered yet.
 
I'm not to worried if its 'rising damp' or 'building up damp' all I know is theres damp that has risen or built up this wall and need to establish where exactly where it camr from. Its 100% not water used from the kitchen because its a single guy owns the house and not been in it much. Only bought in Jan and water has been turned off for a year before Jan! Its definitely not a pipe in kitchen behind sink! It's not washing machine. Its not the waste pipe! So need to find out exactly where its coming from.

Its not the mains or the tank in attic so its either. I did a thermal image test on floor and didn't see no hot spots and have exposed 90% of pipes in screed floor. Have the heating header tank floating ball valve tied so will know more if it drops any.

Anyway, fcuk it, this thread was just more to see if anyone knew, how long it would take for water to run skim off a wall like that, but seems no one knows because it hasn't been answered yet.
Hail hail u know threads tend to go off subject..its how we roll..cmon Liverpool lets do them mancs!!!!
 
It's very had to say ! You tell me how bad is the leak, how good is the background and who has plastered it and I will tell you how long it took to strip the plaster.
 
I'm not to worried if its 'rising damp' or 'building up damp' all I know is theres damp that has risen or built up this wall and need to establish where exactly where it camr from. Its 100% not water used from the kitchen because its a single guy owns the house and not been in it much. Only bought in Jan and water has been turned off for a year before Jan! Its definitely not a pipe in kitchen behind sink! It's not washing machine. Its not the waste pipe! So need to find out exactly where its coming from.

Its not the mains or the tank in attic so its either. I did a thermal image test on floor and didn't see no hot spots and have exposed 90% of pipes in screed floor. Have the heating header tank floating ball valve tied so will know more if it drops any.

Anyway, fcuk it, this thread was just more to see if anyone knew, how long it would take for water to run skim off a wall like that, but seems no one knows because it hasn't been answered yet.
What is above that room,I not read all of thread ,look like water been pissing down the wall for a while
 
Was speaking to a neighbor few doors down today and found out how that skim washed of the wall. 5 years ago there was a very bad leak from the cylinder above that wall. Went on for a month or more!
You trying to say it happened before the fella moved ;)
 
Lol I bet I could ;) so you dig the whole house up and the neighbour popped in? You didn't mention the circular damp theory you had did you?


Any more of that and I'll get my misses to go to town on ya with her 10inch weapon and not a drop of lube in site:bananas: :loco:
 
neither. its interstitial

Got it! The raising damp is a process that falls between ,rather than within a structural object . If that's right Then brings me back again when I was trying to find out how it works and used few samples of bricks with mortar n between exposed to different conditions .
 
Thank god you didn't believe Imago and his conspiracy theory about rising damp:LOL:! Can't imagine this place without the hottest topic! :cachetada:
:D

Did you know that you can calculate the maximum height capillary action will lift water? ;)
 
Did you know that you can calculate the maximum height capillary action will lift water? ;)
Don't get me started! Like the idea of rising damp and for what is worth ...... It exist:fuckyou:. If you don't shut up I'll call flynny:numberone:
 
But if you continue with the challenge I will show you how ziz germans cured the flying damp , which occurred above 10 meters in rooms treated with all sorts of bs against it :burlas:
 
It doesn't exist:fuckyou:.

I'm glad to see another person isn't taken in by the BS. The science is there for all to see, adhesion, cohesion, capillary diameter, water volume. I honestly don't know why people aren't able to understand it like you and I. :estudioso:

You'd think the combination of anecdotal evidence, science and expert opinion would be enough. Even if it wasn't simply looking for the motivation would make it clear. Those of us (like you and I) who see through the crap have nothing to gain either in reputation or monetary terms. Those who say it does exist have to maintain the pretence so that they can keep peddaling their snake oil and fairy dust. :envidioso
 
I recon those streaks were caused by the previous tenants having a pissing contest up the wall but they had a high acidic content in their piss causing erosion ? see scientific answers for everything mun !
 
I recon those streaks were caused by the previous tenants having a pissing contest up the wall but they had a high acidic content in their piss causing erosion ? see scientific answers for everything mun !
The advert for extratime plaster retarder is just after your post on my phone.High acidic piss would definetly slow down the skimming!.
 
I'm glad to see another person isn't taken in by the BS. The science is there for all to see, adhesion, cohesion, capillary diameter, water volume. I honestly don't know why people aren't able to understand it like you and I. :estudioso:

You'd think the combination of anecdotal evidence, science and expert opinion would be enough. Even if it wasn't simply looking for the motivation would make it clear. Those of us (like you and I) who see through the crap have nothing to gain either in reputation or monetary terms. Those who say it does exist have to maintain the pretence so that they can keep peddaling their snake oil and fairy dust. :envidioso

Don't really want to go deep into this , cos I have to go back when I had headache for years till prove something black on white. It will take me maybe 1/2 hour to type it on here and for sure will end up not posting it anyway! The day when people start to see the excessive moisture, condensation and ventilation as part of the capillary action formula:p, which can put you even deeper in the dark by the way ;), is the day when will start thinking how to replace the f**k**g bs they have put on and in the houses.Untill then , as a wise man said every action has an equall and opposite reaction. People have made fortune with rising damp and is normal now to expect people to make fortune with denying the rising damp!
 
Damp's an issue certainly, and there a number of types to deal with. I think (hope) we can agree that there is no one fix or solution. For me there are two groups that have their own distinct problems. Modernised older properties, and poorly built/designed new properties.

As you say though, there's nothing new either of us can add to the 'debate' there's a tonne of information easily available. All we could do is post opinions, and we know what they're worth on the internet! :)
 
Don't really want to go deep into this , cos I have to go back when I had headache for years tsurveyor rove something black on white. It will take me maybe 1/2 hour to type it on here and for sure will end up not posting it anyway! The day when people start to see the excessive moisture, condensation and ventilation as part of the capillary action formula:p, which can put you even deeper in the dark by the way ;), is the day when will start thinking how to replace the f**k**g bs they have put on and in the houses.Untill then , as a wise man said every action has an equall and opposite reaction. People have made fortune with rising damp and is normal now to expect people to make fortune with denying the rising damp!


Explain this then. My parents house before they bought it had damp which was called 'rising damp' going by visual inspection and by the surveyor at the time. My parents called this company in to inject the walls at dpc level. Somehow the damp never ever appeared again in the 15-20 years we lived in it. Explain that!
 
To deal with it you need to look at the big picture-weather exposure, construction material, how is build and where. You can't just use the same recipe across the border .I like very much the " fake " windows on new builds . They need very little sun and turning into amazing heater that drys the cavity , where most of the problems starts .
 
To deal with it you need to look at the big picture-weather exposure, construction material, how is build and where. You can't just use the same recipe across the border .I like very much the " fake " windows on new builds . They need very little sun and turning into amazing heater that drys the cavity , where most of the problems starts .


That doesnt explain what I asked. For better reference, it was a brick built terraced house on a very slopey street.
 
Explain this then. My parents house before they bought it had damp which was called 'rising damp' going by visual inspection and by the surveyor at the time. My parents called this company in to inject the walls at dpc level. Somehow the damp never ever appeared again in the 15-20 years we lived in it. Explain that!

Simple !

Take a brick and put it in trey with water, even better, use 2 with anything in between. Leave it outside , but put something on top to ensure the bricks are exposed to water only beneath. Monitor it for a few days or a week. Now do the same thing but put something on top that will close it tight like greenhouse. After a few sunny days have a look and report back;).
If that's too simple for you.......here is some real headache for you:)
Capillary action
The rise of a column of liquid within a fine capillary tube is also due to surface tension. Capillary action causes liquid to soak upwards through a piece of blotting paper and it also partly explains the rise of water through the capillaries in the stems of plants. (In this last case osmotic pressure accounts for a large part of the rise.)


what do you think of think.
There are two alternative proofs for the formula for capillary rise and we will consider Figure 1(a) first.

Let the radius of the glass capillary tube be r, the coefficient of surface tension of the liquid he T, the density of the liquid be ρ, the angle of contact between the liquid and the walls of the tube be θ and the height to which the liquid rises in the tube be h.
Consider the circumference of the liquid surface where it meets the glass.

Along this line the vertical component of the surface tension force will be 2πr cosθT.

This will draw the liquid up the tube until this force by the downward force due to the column of liquid of height h, that is just balanced at equilibrium:

Therefore
2πr cosθ T = πr2ρgh which gives

Capillary rise (h) = [2T cosθ]/[rρg]

Which for an angle of contact of 0o becomes:

Capillary rise (h) = 2T/[rρg]

For the alternative proof consider Figure 1(b). We will assume that if the radius of the tube is small the shape of the liquid surface is very nearly hemispherical.

The pressure at A must be atmospheric, but since A is within a hemispherical surface the pressure at B must be less than A by an amount 2T/r. The pres
sure at C is also atmospheric but it is greater than the pressure at B by the hydrostatic pressure hρg. Therefore at equilibrium we have h = 2T/rrg, as above.

Both these methods show that the rise is greater in tubes with a narrow bore and for zero angles of contact. In fact when the coefficient of surface tension is measured by capillary rise in the laboratory the values obtained are nearly always too small because of the difficulty of getting perfectly clean apparatus. The angle of contact can rarely be made zero.

With a mercury-glass surface the angle of contact is >90o and therefore cosθ is negative. This means that the mercury level is not raised but depressed below the level of the surrounding liquid.


Example problem
Calculate the radius of a capillary tube if water rises to a height of 12.5 cm within it, assuming the angle of contact between the water and glass to be 0o.

Using the formula: h = 2T/rρg
Radius of tube (r) = 2T/hρg = [2 x 72.7 x 10-3]/0.125x 1000 x 9.8 = 1.2x10-4 m = 0.12 mm

Hope that helps:D
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That doesnt explain what I asked. For better reference, it was a brick built terraced house on a very slopey street.

I can only guess tbh. Haven't seen the property and the brick is not the only element or variable in this equation .
 
Explain this then. My parents house before they bought it had damp which was called 'rising damp' going by visual inspection and by the surveyor at the time. My parents called this company in to inject the walls at dpc level. Somehow the damp never ever appeared again in the 15-20 years we lived in it. Explain that!
They were lied to and the damp was never there?
 
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