what is the goin rate for a plasterers labourer ?

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to be honest i dont really no why everyone finds it so outragous. generally when a lad starts first they need to learn to mix, tape up, maybe a skim bead or 2, unload and load the van, and then the rest is watching u to start to understand what the job is about. now assuming they are only going to do about a couple of hours work a day, i cant really see the problem in for the first few weeks or so for them to use a podger. its not to be a t**t, or because i feel bitter. if all they are gonna do is mix a few tubs a day and stand about, id rather them get used to building up a bit of a sweat, get a callous on their hand, get off their phone and strengthen them up a bit. half the lads iv had cant lift a tub onto the board. like i said before only for a month or so, then when they can knock up properly and keep the place clean, know how to load the van properly and start to labour properly then they can start to put a bit on and start to use a drill etc. as i said if they dont keep the drill clean once theyve been shown, then they can use the podger again. most lads are a bit workshy when they start and standing about pulling a trigger doesnt help that in my opinion. when i was that age it did me good.
 
well as long as you tell the lads exactly what youve just stated there, explained to em WHY you run the job the way you do, then i dont see a problem, youll prolly have a fit, willing labourer but you understand why people might think otherwise surely?

you do see the issue dont you?

spending 5 minutes explaining WHY goes a f'ckin long way towards their education mate, cos they can pretty much work the rest out for themselves once theyve got the bottom line installed in their heads...
 
To be honest Nick, I dont think anyone at 16 can lift a bucket of gear onto a spot too easily, unbeliable the difference in strenth of a teenager to a man!
 
good point bubbles wen i started i couldnt lift it onto the board, i could lift it but not that high, used the plunger for 7 months or so and i could lift a house, jokes but the strength difference was immense
 
I reckon Dannys taking the piss somehow, hes not exactly the smallest lad around is he (from what I know)!

I think a lot of what we do is just what you get used to, when I first started I thought a bag of multi was heavy, but now can lift two bags easily, which is only about 5 kg less than me own body weight lol (smallest spread in town me)
 
all the smaller lads always try and outdo everyone by carrying 2 bags....
had a lad once, normal average bloke, 5'11 12 stone ish... trying to race me unloading a pallet, bout a 30 yard run...
c'mon chris!!! whats up with you!!! 2 at a time y'wuss...
so i just plod on, one at a time, steady as she goes...
this f';ckers sweating like a dog in a chinky...
gets the last bag off... he goes "well, your making the brew, youve done nowt..."

"yeh, no worries mate, when we've loaded out those 2 pallets of boards the other side of the wall, c'mon, cant sit around all day"... :RpS_laugh:
 
:D haha so true!

And yeah Im only 8 and a half stone, 5'5", so everything I do is twice the ******* work, even getting off of me hop up thats twice the size of the normal ones lol
 
Still think nicks right it takes a week to get to know you're new lab and if there really keen or a smack head they'll nod there head at everything for a few days then they start coming out of their skin think of it as a vegetable grow it in a greenhouse through the winter it will be a bit stunted at first but will grow hardier or put them on the sill inside and you still need to harden them off after 8 weeks
 
Still think nicks right it takes a week to get to know you're new lab and if there really keen or a smack head they'll nod there head at everything for a few days then they start coming out of their skin think of it as a vegetable grow it in a greenhouse through the winter it will be a bit stunted at first but will grow hardier or put them on the sill inside and you still need to harden them off after 8 weeks


:rolleyes)Been reading up on the new garden spunky:RpS_laugh:
 
Haha, Yeah I could lift a mix no probs when I started labouring I struggled but a few months S&C on the mixer bulked me up :-)

And chris is right Dengue fever whiped me out :-( not only strength is gone, balance and a lot of other mental issues, forgetfulness and I now get very confused mid conversations and I have to really concentrate to do simple things.... long long road to recovery...

I was plastering today....

My labourers always worked hard but I was quite nice, use to take them for a beer after and what not, but would crack the whip when things needed to be done and they all got good money and the opportunity to learn if they wanted to :-)
 
Haha, Yeah I could lift a mix no probs when I started labouring I struggled but a few months S&C on the mixer bulked me up :-)

And chris is right Dengue fever whiped me out :-( not only strength is gone, balance and a lot of other mental issues, forgetfulness and I now get very confused mid conversations and I have to really concentrate to do simple things.... long long road to recovery...

I was plastering today....

My labourers always worked hard but I was quite nice, use to take them for a beer after and what not, but would crack the whip when things needed to be done and they all got good money and the opportunity to learn if they wanted to :-)

forget any reveals? :RpS_blink:
 
Cress or a raddish something rubbish .........loving it bubbles vie had to throw everything I've grown in seeds I think I started them too late but bought some from the shop and there still alive :RpS_thumbup:
 
sorry dan i diddnt realise you had sumit so serious, sounds like thats properly knackerd ya how did ya get it, ive never herd of it?
 
nah thats ok :-)

I was bitten by a mosquito in Vietnam spent 2 weeks in hospital and got a flight in an air ambulance :-(
 
at lease you got a free ride in the air eh? silver lining to every cloud and all that:RpS_thumbup:
 
They don't grow every time I get home I look and they havent moved lol ........got to stop looking :RpS_sneaky: cheers bubbles

P.s Danny can we have a gardening section please ?
 
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