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Nath80 said:
Have a think now, why you hate Keir Starmer, before the press tell you why you hate him in 4 years time
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Captain Rejoin the artist formerly known as Captain Remain? Because he has all the charisma of the small print in a credit card agreement. Still, he's not really an issue, it'll be 10 years in opposition only to be replaced as leader following two election defeats for him.

It's a shame really, but if the only choices were those wallopers what chance was there of an effective leader?
 
imago said:
Captain Rejoin the artist formerly known as Captain Remain? Because he has all the charisma of the small print in a credit card agreement. Still, he's not really an issue, it'll be 10 years in opposition only to be replaced as leader following two election defeats for him.

It's a shame really, but if the only choices were those wallopers what chance was there of an effective leader?
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So he wanted to remain. That's your argument against him. Don't worry the press will dig up some more stuff in a few years
 
Nath80 said:
So he wanted to remain. That's your argument against him. Don't worry the press will dig up some more stuff in a few years
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If you have the leader of a party who's position is in direct opposition to the direction given by majority of the electorate in a referendum how do you think that's going to work out?

Who do you think Labour will appeal to? They lost the support of the 'working class' so where do they go now?

The press don't need to dig anything up, Labour are fcuking themselves without any need of assistance. If you want proof of that you only have to look at the last ten years. I can't remember a time where there was a worse group of clowns in charge. Yet they are by far the best option. How truly fcuked up do the opposition have to be to make that the case?
 
imago said:
If you have the leader of a party who's position is in direct opposition to the direction given by majority of the electorate in a referendum how do you think that's going to work out?

Who do you think Labour will appeal to? They lost the support of the 'working class' so where do they go now?

The press don't need to dig anything up, Labour are fcuking themselves without any need of assistance. If you want proof of that you only have to look at the last ten years. I can't remember a time where there was a worse group of clowns in charge. Yet they are by far the best option. How truly fcuked up do the opposition have to be to make that the case?
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So you won't vote for labour due to its stance on Brexit even though brexit will have happened 4 years previous to the next election?

I was talking about Starmer, you've moved on to talking about labour under the previous leader. So you have no reason to dislike starmer at this time other than he wanted to remain?
 
Any democratic society needs a strong opposition to hold the government to account, we haven’t had that in this country for a long time.
The new labour leader will need to take labour back to its working class routes that have been ignored for years. Left wing socialism might work in London, it doesn’t work in Blackburn and hundreds of other working class towns around the north.
 
owls said:
Any democratic society needs a strong opposition to hold the government to account, we haven’t had that in this country for a long time.
The new labour leader will need to take labour back to its working class routes that have been ignored for years. Left wing socialism might work in London, it doesn’t work in Blackburn and hundreds of other working class towns around the north.
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It doesn't work as we have a far right wing press. The working class like labours policies when asked when they don't know it's a labour policy. The working class have been ignored by the government for the last 10 years but unfortunately can't see past the daily mail
 
Nath80 said:
It doesn't work as we have a far right wing press. The working class like labours policies when asked when they don't know it's a labour policy. The working class have been ignored by the government for the last 10 years but unfortunately can't see past the daily mail
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The typical response to comments like this is, loony lefty, comrad of Corbyn etc etc. But what conservative policies favour the working class more than labour ones?
 
Nath80 said:
So you won't vote for labour due to its stance on Brexit even though brexit will have happened 4 years previous to the next election?
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That's right, unless Starmer does a complete about face then they can get fcuked in perpetuity for me. He along with his other spineless colleagues all said they'd honour the outcome of the referendum. Then they spent years trying everything they could to stop it.

So if you're prepared to vote for someone with a proven, documented history of lying and trying to thwart the outcome of a democratic referendum that's your choice. I, and fortunately a great many others, won't. I don't give a toss if he's right, left or straight up the middle any politician with that track record is a c**t of the first water.
 
imago said:
Captain Rejoin the artist formerly known as Captain Remain? Because he has all the charisma of the small print in a credit card agreement. Still, he's not really an issue, it'll be 10 years in opposition only to be replaced as leader following two election defeats for him.

It's a shame really, but if the only choices were those wallopers what chance was there of an effective leader?
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I've already drank half a bottle of vodka
kve read that 4 times
I've still no idea Larry :birra: :birra:(y)
 
imago said:
That's right, unless Starmer does a complete about face then they can get fcuked in perpetuity for me. He along with his other spineless colleagues all said they'd honour the outcome of the referendum. Then they spent years trying everything they could to stop it.

So if you're prepared to vote for someone with a proven, documented history of lying and trying to thwart the outcome of a democratic referendum that's your choice. I, and fortunately a great many others, won't. I don't give a toss if he's right, left or straight up the middle any politician with that track record is a c**t of the first water.
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Ha amazing
Who cares about policies hey
 
Nath80 said:
You honestly still going on about Corbyn bankrupting the country given the financial mess and obscurity we now find ourselves in? He's not even labour leader anymore ffs.
Have a think now, why you hate Keir Starmer, before the press tell you why you hate him in 4 years time
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Robbo?
 
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Nath80 said:
You honestly still going on about Corbyn bankrupting the country given the financial mess and obscurity we now find ourselves in? He's not even labour leader anymore ffs.
Have a think now, why you hate Keir Starmer, before the press tell you why you hate him in 4 years time
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very simple, the man knows nothing about democracy. He is the next Ed milliband
 
Nath80 said:
Ha amazing(y)
Who cares about policies hey
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Indeed, when they're put forward by Politicians with a proven track record of not following through there isn't much point in listening to them is there? :LOL:

Starmer himself went into the Brexit talks with May. When they typed up all that he'd asked for in order to vote it through he said he couldn't agree to it. His own fcuking words! The man's a bullsh1t artist, but fortunately he'll never get close to being in charge.
 
owls said:
Any democratic society needs a strong opposition to hold the government to account, we haven’t had that in this country for a long time.
The new labour leader will need to take labour back to its working class routes that have been ignored for years. Left wing socialism might work in London, it doesn’t work in Blackburn and hundreds of other working class towns around the north.
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I'd have too disagree there mate
northerns are big fannys
 
gps said:
very wrong, it only opens in June you will likely have to wait til August. it was always in the planning but very complex to do
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Funny they didnt mention it when they announced we should sign on to universal credit isn't it?
 
Nath80 said:
It doesn't work as we have a far right wing press. The working class like labours policies when asked when they don't know it's a labour policy. The working class have been ignored by the government for the last 10 years but unfortunately can't see past the daily mail
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Labour fu cked the working class when they opened the doors to the fu cking Eastern European’s cheap
Labour
 
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