Would you employ a courser?

Would you employ someone who has gained their qualifications via a course?

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then he wouldnt be a problem to any of us cos by the sounds of it he will be dead within a week:RpS_lol:
 
Most plasterers don't give a f**k. Those that do give a f**k get somewhere whether they have done a course or not.

I'd employ some1 if they had a good attitude, were willing to learn and were passionate about the trade no matter what their background.
 
How about this then would you employ a courser if they could make you good money?

Say the courser skims quickly to a high standard but only charges £180 a day with lab.

You give them a room to do...they knock it out in a day.

You charge £440 for the room.

You make £220 apprx after mats.

Coursers i've met are passionate about the trade, want to make money, and most will do everything they can to leave a quality job.

For me its a no brainer.
 
How about this scenario. You pass a courser work, this courser is s**t hot and they start to get really busy from there own work and then start passing you work back?

lol sounds crazy but it happens
 
FreeD said:
How about this scenario. You pass a courser work, this courser is s**t hot and they start to get really busy from there own work and then start passing you work back?

lol sounds crazy but it happens
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very optimistic
Ahmed78 is a courser would you employ him?
 
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spunky said:
I worked with a lad who went on a course he was a s**t labourer and a s**t plasterer and all he did was bang on about how he's going to start his own business and can I skim this and can I skim that the truth is I couldn't trust him and I wasn't prepared to lose my time on the trowel looking after him, he was miles away from even buying a trowel and needless to say he had a chip on his shoulder when I told him, I sacked him and he didn't even work for me
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had loads lke this when i was plastering, they were usually down the road by lunchtime.
 
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FreeD said:
How about this then would you employ a courser if they could make you good money?

Say the courser skims quickly to a high standard but only charges £180 a day with lab.

You give them a room to do...they knock it out in a day.

You charge £440 for the room.

You make £220 apprx after mats.

Coursers i've met are passionate about the trade, want to make money, and most will do everything they can to leave a quality job.

For me its a no brainer.
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:RpS_lol:
 
andyR said:
Seeing as it seems to be a topic of contention on here, i thought i'd ask.
So lets see what people really think. Some logic to your answers would be nice, just to see what the general consensus is.
Do try not to turn the thread into a shite storm though, despite it being quite an emotive subject :RpS_biggrin::RpS_thumbup:
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just seen ya thread Andy ,, the answer would be yes ,, basically it would be 2 rooms about same size ,, 1 for me and 1 for him or her ( ya never know brother ) ,, mix ya own and take it from theer :RpS_cool:
 
Ok Here's my two peneth. I left the army in 2005 and they paid for me to do a 6 week city& Guilds ICA (intermediate construction award) which is an NVQ level 2 equivilant. Cost £2300 for my resettlement to re-trade. I had a little experience of labouring 4 a spread while on leave a couple of times a year. the only thing he let me do plastering wise was put the dabs on the wall, Which took some mastering over time.
After i left the army i couldn't get a job because i didnt have the time in the trade even though ON PAPER i had an NVQ level 2. Luckily the spread i did labouring for gave me a couple of days a week labouring/plastering for £35 a day. When he went under i didnt have any choice but to join back up or got it on my own. So ive been self employed since 2006 and been on the steepest learning curve ever. Ive been lucky enough to have worked with some canny spreads who have brought me on loads.
The young lad who works for me left college with NVQ level 3, has dot & Dabbed once in 3 years done very little rendering and knows very little about floating.
Maybe i picked up plastering quicker cos i was working for myself and your only as good as your last job and i've got bills to pay.

but a lad doing a 3 year NVQ is farther advanced in the trade than i am after a short course. Dont get me wrong alot of blokes an my course finished it not much better than they started. they were all younger than me could be down to me have more life skills than them, being a bit more mature. (Doubt it squaddies arent mature).
who knows????. Im not saying im mustard at plastering but i do a canny job and im still working for myself when many lads went under so i take a bit of positivity from that that my standard but be at least average to good.

Ive not been on this forum long and ive learn s**t loads from most of you lot and for that i am truely thankfull
amen.
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Just my opinion
 
just wondering how many times ive read on here people telling someone to 'get a spread to do it and help him, that way youll get some experience'
 
NPS said:
just wondering how many times ive read on here people telling someone to 'get a spread to do it and help him, that way youll get some experience'
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youd be better payin the spread to come n tell u how to do it, though i doubt many would be prepared to do that, ive always felt that you learn best by doing. Just my opinion.
 
Artisan998 said:
Ok Here's my two peneth. I left the army in 2005 and they paid for me to do a 6 week city& Guilds ICA (intermediate construction award) which is an NVQ level 2 equivilant. Cost £2300 for my resettlement to re-trade. I had a little experience of labouring 4 a spread while on leave a couple of times a year. the only thing he let me do plastering wise was put the dabs on the wall, Which took some mastering over time.
After i left the army i couldn't get a job because i didnt have the time in the trade even though ON PAPER i had an NVQ level 2. Luckily the spread i did labouring for gave me a couple of days a week labouring/plastering for £35 a day. When he went under i didnt have any choice but to join back up or got it on my own. So ive been self employed since 2006 and been on the steepest learning curve ever. Ive been lucky enough to have worked with some canny spreads who have brought me on loads.
The young lad who works for me left college with NVQ level 3, has dot & Dabbed once in 3 years done very little rendering and knows very little about floating.
Maybe i picked up plastering quicker cos i was working for myself and your only as good as your last job and i've got bills to pay.

but a lad doing a 3 year NVQ is farther advanced in the trade than i am after a short course. Dont get me wrong alot of blokes an my course finished it not much better than they started. they were all younger than me could be down to me have more life skills than them, being a bit more mature. (Doubt it squaddies arent mature).
who knows????. Im not saying im mustard at plastering but i do a canny job and im still working for myself when many lads went under so i take a bit of positivity from that that my standard but be at least average to good.

Ive not been on this forum long and ive learn s**t loads from most of you lot and for that i am truely thankfull
amen.
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Just my opinion[/QUOTE

Hi Guys,

Two Peneth, this is a disatation, what course were you on?? English Literature!!

just my opinion
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Do you mean Dissertation?? . Just what i picked up on my Plastering/English lit course.
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when you say employ a courser.do u mean a lab.av found coursers just get in my road.no good u can not learn 2 plaster.on some short course.it takes years to learn how 2 plaster.
 
don't matter where they learnt to plaster... on site, apprentice, course or even youtube videos. As long as they can plaster and get a good finish then i'd happily pay them.

I actually learnt on a course. I have been plastering for 10 years and have run a sucsessfull plastering business for 8 years.

I'm not cheap either. I leave that to the polish and romanians.
 
shapeshifter said:
don't matter where they learnt to plaster... on site, apprentice, course or even youtube videos. As long as they can plaster and get a good finish then i'd happily pay them.

I actually learnt on a course. I have been plastering for 10 years and have run a sucsessfull plastering business for 8 years.

I'm not cheap either. I leave that to the polish and romanians.
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wit can u learn on a course.how 2 skim a board
 
It can be done look at OASIS that guy is relentless he proved the haters wrong and no doubt will do very well for himself...when I looked at his website the other day hes doing EWI and Acylics, has got a few lads on with him and has a machine. Fair f**king play to the bloke thats what I say.
 
Proof that you can be s**t at you're job and be a good business man .....good luck freed you're halfway there mate :RpS_thumbup:
 
Spunky way things are going couple of years time I won't even need to pick a trowel up m8. I'd rather be a s**t spread and off the tools by the time i'm 35 than a s**t spread and 45 still stuck on site slaving my ass off for peanuts for some1 else.
 
JamieMac said:
wit can u learn on a course.how 2 skim a board
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How to do venetian plastering and charge £100 a metre.. venetian is a piece of piss and something providing you got trowel time already can learn off a course. Courses do work and have there uses.
 
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