Be paying people soon to take it !!

Plasterers1StopShop said:
I believe they are clearing old batches - however. I’m not 100% sure.

They obviously messed up big style with the first batches and have hurt their reputation - however, they did listen and have changed things to overcome issues.
We have had great feedback and results on the second batch, but have withdrawn it from our lines due to the current situation with B&Q and the confusion surrounding it all.
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Ye but wen you was selling 1st batch you was saying on here how every plasterer likes it who comes in shop and gave you positive feedback!? Whats that about then????
 
Couldn’t gift it to me. I never tried the s**t. Don’t want my reputation tarnished for the sake of a bag o shite
 
Kinkyboy said:
Ye but wen you was selling 1st batch you was saying on here how every plasterer likes it who comes in shop and gave you positive feedback!? Whats that about then????
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We genuinely did have a lot of positive feedback - hence having repeated sales - then MG changed something and it went downhill
 
essexandy said:
I think ultimately once the damage has been done they're sunk. Unifinish was a prime example.
A change of name, preferably to something less stupid, a decent useable material and free material to enough guys to get the word spread that it's decent gear might just save their grand plan of challenging BG in some meaningful way.
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I have strongly advised them to rebrand - they have no interest in doing so.

They are currently going up and down the country demonstrating their new stuff. In fairness to them, They have Listened to lots of feedback And are making a serious effort

Might be worth just heading down to one of the demos and having a look
 
Plasterers1StopShop said:
I have strongly advised them to rebrand - they have no interest in doing so.

They are currently going up and down the country demonstrating their new stuff. In fairness to them, They have Listened to lots of feedback And are making a serious effort

Might be worth just heading down to one of the demos and having a look
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They don't listen,I had a long conversation regarding some of their products a year ago.Their technical department said they would put it to management.
No tape filler for one, absolutely failed. I said who will buy this,,discontinued. 20 min set filler failed numerous times.Their dab,well. I said little info on specs for your stuff on different substrates,still little on the Internet. I even asked them to come on forum talk to members see what they would like to see. Yeah we will do that.
All b*ll***s.
 
MakeItSmooth said:
As I see it, that's the problem - aside from the shortage of BG, which is a topic in itself, I think there has long been a desire, amongst spreads in mainland UK, to see a viable competitor to BG, not necessarily to hurt BG, but just to keep finish plaster at a competitively high standard, on all sides, rather than complacency slipping into the equation due to too much market share, which ends up hurting spreads who have to struggle to achieve a decent finish when a batch is below-par.

When MakeGood appeared (again, I'm ignoring BG shortage during the crisis, for the purposes of this discussion), I suspect there was a reasonable amount of goodwill from mainland UK spreads, who would've liked to see the entry of a viable competitor to the marketplace. What has scuppered that goodwill is a product being pushed through distribution channels that was clearly not fully R&D'd, and many jobs have turned into a bit of a nightmare, when they shouldn't have. To rub salt in the wound, it was being sold, right from the get-go, at the same price as a mature (BG) product.

What the motives were, behind this approach, I've no way of knowing, but end-users have suffered and so, now (inevitably), has the manufacturer. So, yes, I hope lessons have been learned, but I also hope attitudes have been altered in so much as not expecting end-users to pick up the slack for a product that's not been fully R&D'd. Were it not for the BG shortage, I think MG would've been hit even harder by the backlash and scuppered sales.

As things stand, do I want to see MG fail? That very much depends on what their motives were, throughout the whole debacle, and almost none of us can know that, for certain.

If I choose to believe that they were motivated purely by greed and didn't give a damn about end-users, then I could say "good riddance".

If I choose to believe they were just naive and over-eager to enter the market, but with no selfish disregard for potentially making life difficult for end-users, then I suppose I might be willing to sit tight, watch them (wisely) step back from the marketplace, regroup and R&D some more, having learned some painful lessons. Ultimately, I think there is still a general desire to see a viable longterm competitor to BG, but only one that properly R&Ds their product before distributing it to the trade - otherwise, they're just contributing to the problem, rather than their competition helping to improve the problem.

If MG do more R&D and re-enter the market in 6 months time, I might be wiling to give them the benefit of the doubt and at least try a couple of bags, on a non-critical job. Whether that ends up being a good experience for me (and, ultimately, them) is almost entirely in their hands.
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Donzo said:
I think but not 100% that all the gear is batch 1 they are trying to drop.

Somebody said batch 2 is good.

Not touching it,also hearing painting issues with it.
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I know first hand ,batch 1 -the painter moaned one for sanding the c**t n 2 -painting the f**k*r took loads of coats suck liked sponge over 2foot
 
They put up a 10 min video i think of how to use the the second batch on a plasterboard testing area the f**k*r had to dubs his beads out before laying the first coat on looked like if he didn't dub them out the 2 coats wouldn't of covered the beads fully
 
Plasterers1StopShop said:
I have strongly advised them to rebrand - they have no interest in doing so.

They are currently going up and down the country demonstrating their new stuff. In fairness to them, They have Listened to lots of feedback And are making a serious effort

Might be worth just heading down to one of the demos and having a look
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To be honest Ryan I have absolutely no interest in trying it. All this talk about having to learn new timings etc. isn't for me. They need to make a product that fits in with UK plasterers, not the other way around, IMO.
 
MG plasters are manufactured in Turkey who are trying to break into the uk market now that we are out of the EEC.
I have used their bonding coat although not cheap at £9 per bag. it was very much like thistle universal and Knauf Gold/black band plasters. i used the 60 min setting one, it took longer then 60 to set. after the sponge float it would just trowel up like universal plaster.
the skim coat that i applied on to a PVA backing took an age to finish.
although it did fill my pockets up this week i don't recommend it.
 
Stewie03 said:
They put up a 10 min video i think of how to use the the second batch on a plasterboard testing area the f**k*r had to dubs his beads out before laying the first coat on looked like if he didn't dub them out the 2 coats wouldn't of covered the beads fully
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Interesting - I found MG too creamy. I know that sounds absurd, but it felt like it had less 'substance'/body to it than BG skim. It would smear down to transparent, on the wall, whereas BG generally tends to retain a bit more thickness. I don't know if BG maybe have more than one particle/grain size combined in their skim, whereas MG just feels 100% superfine. All I can say is that was how it felt, subjectively. It feels a bit like Easi Fill or plaster of paris.
 
Still full from last nights meal. Pollo Milanese and focaccia

Be paying people soon to take it !!
 
used it once and thats it f me total crap over skimmed a wall in hallway of house wouldn't set so got it down as good as could then when i got back next day wtf!!!! i had to sand it down then ames it next day whats that all about never had to do that with BG , never again ill sit at home 1st
 
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