BG state multi finish IS suitable to spray

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BritishGypsum said:
Hi all, thanks for your comments on this.

We do not recommend spray application with Thistle MultiFinish for a number of reasons. When tested, we have seen over shelling off the wall and excessive cracking. We also have concerns that Thistle MultiFinish could clog machine feeds.

That said, we do appreciate the views expressed here, and could be willing to make some site visits to see how the product is being used in spray application.
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Your more than welcome to visit our next demonstration and see how the machine performs.

If you can remember, the M100 was specifically designed for use with Multi Finish.

To be honest, I have never come across this issue and am unsure why this would even happen
 
BritishGypsum said:
Hi all, thanks for your comments on this.

We do not recommend spray application with Thistle MultiFinish for a number of reasons. When tested, we have seen over shelling off the wall and excessive cracking. We also have concerns that Thistle MultiFinish could clog machine feeds.

That said, we do appreciate the views expressed here, and could be willing to make some site visits to see how the product is being used in spray application.
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Plasterers1StopShop said:
Your more than welcome to visit our next demonstration and see how the machine performs.

If you can remember, the M100 was specifically designed for use with Multi Finish.

To be honest, I have never come across this issue and am unsure why this would even happen
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Has the m200 you have got the skim set up on it.. I would be interested in a demo with the m100 and m200 if it has it.
 
Plasterers1StopShop said:
Your more than welcome to visit our next demonstration and see how the machine performs.

If you can remember, the M100 was specifically designed for use with Multi Finish.

To be honest, I have never come across this issue and am unsure why this would even happen
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So what made it better for spraying multi finish compared to other machines


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The Ritmo sprays it perfectly well and the mix quality is excellent as it has the after mixer on the rotor and stator, but I think the spray finish and mp finish are both far superior for spraying compared to multi


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UKPlasteringmachines said:
The Ritmo sprays it perfectly well and the mix quality is excellent as it has the after mixer on the rotor and stator, but I think the spray finish and mp finish are both far superior for spraying compared to multi


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I would agree, MP Finish and Spray Finish do certainly spray better and they are more suited to machine application. But Plasterers struggle to get access to these materials and quite often there are minimum orders for the products so it easier for them to use Multi or Board
 
I don't know why they don't make just one product for both applications, Weber had this years they made Pral M and Pral H in the end the got rid of the H


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Plasterers1StopShop said:
I would agree, MP Finish and Spray Finish do certainly spray better and they are more suited to machine application. But Plasterers struggle to get access to these materials and quite often there are minimum orders for the products so it easier for them to use Multi or Board
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you not thought of stocking it in Ryan ?
 
keithuk said:
you not thought of stocking it in Ryan ?
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We are going to potentially be stocking BG and Knauf. Minimum orders are always an issue and also how much shelf live the product comes with.
I think this is where BG currently have the edge and can really take a stronger hold of the market
 
Lads have u seen vids of them spraying multi!? It looks tedious and boring and it takes 5xs aslong as it wud to put on..
 
i personally think if it works well ,loads would be doing it ,its not a new thing spraying plaster ,but has not really taken off
 
Kitchy said:
Lads have u seen vids of them spraying multi!? It looks tedious and boring and it takes 5xs aslong as it wud to put on..
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You might be right but the mix is the same throughout whilst spraying and if the machine loaded up the other geezer can do other things

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zolco said:
You might be right but the mix is the same throughout whilst spraying and if the machine loaded up the other geezer can do other things

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i really hope it works TBH ,i,m for the lad paying out a lot of money on a machine mate
 
zolco said:
You might be right but the mix is the same throughout whilst spraying and if the machine loaded up the other geezer can do other things

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The mix shud be the same or near as anyway zolco I ain't open heart surgery..skimming is 1 of the easiest aspects of plastering if ur a competent spread which if ur shelling out a few gs I'm sure ud be a competent spread..u still cant put more on with a machine so how wud it pay for its self
 
I think the problem with multi and that's whether your mixing with a whisk or a machine if you constantly mixing it's setting quicker. If you left a whisk mixing a bucket it would be interesting to see how long it takes to set in the bucket @theplasterman you like f**k**g about and making vids let's make a worthwhile one ;). Going through a machine your going to be left with some of the first bag mixed with the fifth bag in the mixing chamber so may have a reaction. It is very slow at spraying like what @Kitchy said, I also don't see the benefit and never have. Might be ok for ceilings I suppose if you have that 300m ceiling we all dream of.
 
Kitchy said:
The mix shud be the same or near as anyway zolco I ain't open heart surgery..skimming is 1 of the easiest aspects of plastering if ur a competent spread which if ur shelling out a few gs I'm sure ud be a competent spread..u still cant put more on with a machine so how wud it pay for its self
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You can definitely put more on with a machine. But you need the jobs for it. Domestic it doesn't work - Commercial jobs it does. We just had one guy spray 100m2 in 20 minutes. .
 
flynnyman said:
I think the problem with multi and that's whether your mixing with a whisk or a machine if you constantly mixing it's setting quicker. If you left a whisk mixing a bucket it would be interesting to see how long it takes to set in the bucket @theplasterman you like f**k**g about and making vids let's make a worthwhile one ;). Going through a machine your going to be left with some of the first bag mixed with the fifth bag in the mixing chamber so may have a reaction. It is very slow at spraying like what @Kitchy said, I also don't see the benefit and never have. Might be ok for ceilings I suppose if you have that 300m ceiling we all dream of.
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Lol luvs his vids does are vince
 
Plasterers1StopShop said:
You can definitely put more on with a machine. But you need the jobs for it. Domestic it doesn't work - Commercial jobs it does. We just had one guy spray 100m2 in 20 minutes. .
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I would like to see it sprayed because what I've seen you ain't doing 100m in 20 minutes and you still need to turn back. From what I have seen I would lose that spray machine very quickly and also be miles in front as regards flattening.
 
Plasterers1StopShop said:
I would agree, MP Finish and Spray Finish do certainly spray better and they are more suited to machine application. But Plasterers struggle to get access to these materials and quite often there are minimum orders for the products so it easier for them to use Multi or Board
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Phoned my merchants on Monday they said they could get a pallet of thistle spray delivered by this Tuesday coming £8.20 a bag inc vat
 
We come up against guys everyday saying they are the quickest spread etc and they will smash a machine. Whether its Rendering, Top coats or Plaster.... The Machine will always win

The race would be good but pretty pointless, you need a 2-3 man gang on the machine. Guy putting bags in, another spraying and one behind him.

Our last customer did 300m2 with a 4 man team, thats 2 Labs and 2 spreads.... Thats pretty good going
 
Plasterers1StopShop said:
You can definitely put more on with a machine. But you need the jobs for it. Domestic it doesn't work - Commercial jobs it does. We just had one guy spray 100m2 in 20 minutes. .
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But thats one guy ,with respect ,you sell the machines ,why not more ? ,not having a dig ,but keep posting go to our facebook page to see one comment ?
 
keithuk said:
But thats one guy ,with respect ,you sell the machines ,why not more ? ,not having a dig ,but keep posting go to our facebook page to see one comment ?
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There is more than one comment to be honest. Thats just on his thread. We sell a lot of M100's for the Commercial Plastering market. I think this year we have sold over 15 for this exact application, each one of the guys are using the machine regaulary with great results. There are more guys out there than just on FB and TPF to be fair.

We had one guy on FB saying he bought one years ago and it was a waste of money, no good for domestic etc and didn't suit him. Another guy who used one today who said 'If I had the money, I would buy'
 
The thing is, everyone can be the Hero and lash material on at 100mph - they can't do this everyday and all day. No matter how good and fit you are, its simply impossible - the machine doesn't get tired
 
Plasterers1StopShop said:
You can definitely put more on with a machine. But you need the jobs for it. Domestic it doesn't work - Commercial jobs it does. We just had one guy spray 100m2 in 20 minutes. .
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If theres one thing that all the superstar plasterers bragg about ryan its the "Magical Mystical 100 mts " Right from the word go these rare animals have caused many a debate at first in pubs on a friday afternoon, then via forums and now on social media platforms. These superhuman plasterers are often found bragging these amazing feats which always use terms like "100" "A Day" whilst their tatty old charriots are parked "100" meters round the corner
 
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