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He was charging 250 a day and not covering the m2 to be honest. His work was A+ , over trowelled tho! mist coat running like feck. Russian bought the flat for £9m, spent, dunno,£1m, worth £15++. Rent will be £25000 a WEEK.

If any of u northeners fancy a p1ss up down here I could prob get u a discount.

ive got pics, it's not bad
 
irish_spread said:
He was charging 250 a day and not covering the m2 to be honest. His work was A+ , over trowelled tho! mist coat running like feck. Russian bought the flat for £9m, spent, dunno,£1m, worth £15++. Rent will be £25000 a WEEK.

If any of u northeners fancy a p1ss up down here I could prob get u a discount.

ive got pics, it's not bad
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So ,on price or good day rate?
 
stuart23 said:
Wouldnt say the cheap way, its over twenty quid a bag of joint cement. I would say the unskilled way but depends what there doing. If they're only repairing patches then what they are doing is fine. If they are doing full rooms like this then questions need to be asked.
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The guy says his VICTORIAN house which I assume by that he wants to keep it traditional, hence the mention of tape and filler and then sanding down, certainly cant recall being shown how to sand down a wall 45 odd yrs ago.
 
Day work, good work, over polished.A bit slow I was told. Builder a bit of a messer to be honest hanging on to the cash. I don't mind hanging on to get paid as long as I get it eventually. Told builder if he wanted it super shiny I would rock wool it or if he wanted good work + meterage we'd do it our way.
We're gonna end up with a good wedge either ways! builder paying parking in the Park
 
cathal said:
The guy says his VICTORIAN house which I assume by that he wants to keep it traditional, hence the mention of tape and filler and then sanding down, certainly cant recall being shown how to sand down a wall 45 odd yrs ago.
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So skimming the walls with multi is a no no as well? We don't know whats in the quote or what the company has said so we are all just making presumptions. We have been told VERY little.
 
If its lath and plaster then its lime based surely putting a gypsum based plaster over the top will inhibit the ability of the wall to breath?
 
Curry said:
If its lath and plaster then its lime based surely putting a gypsum based plaster over the top will inhibit the ability of the wall to breath?
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it doesn't need to breath, it's a wall :RpS_biggrin:

Seriously though, it's over 100yrs old so it's had more breaths than Henry :RpS_laugh:
 
Curry said:
If its lath and plaster then its lime based surely putting a gypsum based plaster over the top will inhibit the ability of the wall to breath?
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99 per cent of old houses are skim coated now.we have been doing it for forty odd years, thousands of us, so a fair few have breathed there last..
 
irish_spread said:
Day work, good work, over polished.A bit slow I was told. Builder a bit of a messer to be honest hanging on to the cash. I don't mind hanging on to get paid as long as I get it eventually. Told builder if he wanted it super shiny I would rock wool it or if he wanted good work + meterage we'd do it our way.
We're gonna end up with a good wedge either ways! builder paying parking in the Park
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That's why on top jobs, the firms keep hiring us, they don't want the hassle of it going wrong and I am slower than when I was in my thirties,
 
johniosaif said:
That's why on top jobs, the firms keep hiring us, they don't want the hassle of it going wrong and I am slower than when I was in my thirties,
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YUp I still get jobs on money I want and i take a lot longer... and probably not as good :RpS_w00t:

If you can get photos up or give us a location someone will pop round and see what is what.
 
Danny said:
YUp I still get jobs on money I want and i take a lot longer... and probably not as good :RpS_w00t:

If you can get photos up or give us a location someone will pop round and see what is what.
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I could imagine the scrutiny..
 
Justchecking said:
My point is I'm not sure if I trust them. One of the non-English speaking workers is a plasterer one day, a joiner the next, a plumber the next etc. etc. I've done a bit of plumbing myself and I know he isn't up to standard in that field. Hence my questioning his plastering.
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shutting the gate after the horse has bolted, did you know about this forum before you decided to employ this company? Lots of good lads on here who don't use sandpaper!
 
Sorry guys justchecking was asking our professional opinion and you've slaughtered him/her,we've all been there when we want to ask advice about something we know nothing about, I certainly have . I don't think juctchecking came across as rude,every time someone comes on here for help they get sent away with a flee in there ear ,just my opinion :RpS_unsure:
 
Danny said:
Oi! I am not in a mood :) I love @Marshy xxx

Its hard to say what is right and what is wrong with this job without seeing it... polish latvian or not a job should be done correctly and after all that is what you are paying for....

Get some photos up and be aware plasterers on here are notorious for being very straight talking :RpS_scared:

The other thing is if you give us your general location I am sure someone can drop in and see for themselves and point you in the right direction :)
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Hi and Thanks. As I've said to others, I don't think photos are going to help. They would just show off-white walls. As for straight talking plasterers, I'm happy to verbally joust but I wish they were more straightforward with their answers.

I'm near Perth in Scotland, if you have are contributers in the area I would be happy to chat!
 
Oh blimey that that is miles and miles away from me.

I dont think anybody can give a straight answer though its hard to tell using words alone.

If you are concerned then get a second opinion from a local firm....

I personally wouldnt top out a wall with filler of any sort but thats just me.

I will have a think if there are any perth plasterers on the forum.

Danny
 
zombie said:
Im sorry, but is it just me but why is it that all these customers that come on this forum under a witch hunt all seem to be out of the same mould!!!

1)ARROGANT
2)ATTITUDE PROBLEM
3)GIVEN ADVISE BUT NOT ACTUALY LISTENING
4)GIVEN POINTERS AS IN POST SOME PICS AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT BUT THEN DONT!
5)THEN START PICKING STRIPS OFF VERY EXPERIANCED TRADESMAN WHO COULD ACTUALY HELP BUT INSTEAD JUST ATTAGONISE!!!

aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!:RpS_thumbdn:
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Would it be arrogant of me to ask you to read my replies to others re. photos? What useful advice have you given?

Please point out to me where you think I have started picking strips off very "experianced" tradesmen.

I hope your plastering is better than your spelling!
 
irish_spread said:
In my HO Justchecking you are asking a valid question here. With Polish 'specialists ' it's hit and miss. 90% of their plasterers are sh1t.FACT. And my mrs is Polish. Doing a £10+++ million flat in Regents park at the moment and the builder has chucked all the Poles off the job and got us in, complaining he's paying through the nose for it lol
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Thank you for your reply.
 
raggles said:
I believe it has already been said earlier in the thread that the method they are using would appear to us to be an American type approach to the works or certainly not a method of work that a lot of us on the forum are familiar with. As John has already said have a word with their foreman. There are finishes available that are finished by sanding but these are generally spray applied to plaster boards/old plaster.

Without us knowing or seeing the exact substrate and materials that are being used frankly it would be very hard for us to comment on the suitability and longevity of the method and materials.
Not a lot of help to you i know but, it is all i could comment on/ suggest.
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Thanks for your reply. It was far more helpful than some. I have spoken to the foreman (his is also Polish) and he tells me the method is correct. I did list the materials they are using in my original reply.

Thanks again.
 
I think the workers would say its correct though.... they would be pretty silly to say no...lol

With plastering there are a million and one ways to do any job... :)
 
jrplastering said:
its joint cement not plaster right...........soooooooo your walls are not plastered they are filled so if your paying for plastering you are not getting plastering your getting filling, you could have realised that your self your just here to cause agg, then when people say they dont want to coment without seeing it first, you get sarky, now you have your answer
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No I'm not here to cause "agg", I'm here to seek professional advice. I'm not sure how you get "filled" from "Joint Cement" though! Using your conclusions I may just as well say my walls are cemented!

And no, I'm not getting "sarky" I'm simply saying that the walls are off-white and pretty smooth and that showing anyone a picture of an off-white smooth wall isn't really going to tell you anything.
 
Justchecking said:
No I'm not here to cause "agg", I'm here to seek professional advice. I'm not sure how you get "filled" from "Joint Cement" though! Using your conclusions I may just as well say my walls are cemented!

And no, I'm not getting "sarky" I'm simply saying that the walls are off-white and pretty smooth and that showing anyone a picture of an off-white smooth wall isn't really going to tell you anything.
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I think the proof will be in the pudding and time will tell. If it looks good and doesn't crack in time then the job has been done well. I think it was @Curry saying on another thread that 5phase plastering is a high standard spec, it's just very rare to see it used on old existing buildings. The bottom line is simple
Will it fail?
Is the finish a high standard?
 
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stuart23 said:
@Justchecking what does it say on the quote they are going to do to your walls?
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Hi Stuart. Very good point. The quote says only "repair/ replace plaster work as required" and "finish to a high standard. The plastering is only part of a much larger job and before it started the talk was of "skimming" the walls after repair work was carried out to the original lath and plaster.

I seem to be going round in circles with some of the answers I'm receiving (or not receiving) but all I'm really trying to establish is if finishing a wall with Joint Cement and then sanding back to a smooth finish is an accepted method.
 
99% of plasterers on this forum would have used pva/blue grit and skimmed with board/multi finish and filled deeper hole with bonding, is it wrong what others have done ? only you can tell its your house and you can/have seen what has been covered , ultimate choice is yours
 
Marshy said:
Checking correct practice.
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Oh I think you already have it firmly wedged up there!
 
TonyM said:
If they are using bonding compound, as in drywall adhesive, which I expect they are as it's only a fiver a bag, then this is far too brittle a product to be putting alongside original lath and plaster. It might look nice for a while, but if there is any movement in the vacinity in future, you may well find it all down on your floor. Oh, and Arrow Lite Joint Cement is cheap and soft as f@ck.
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Many thanks for your reply which was far more helpful than most :)
 
Danny said:
YUp I still get jobs on money I want and i take a lot longer... and probably not as good :RpS_w00t:

If you can get photos up or give us a location someone will pop round and see what is what.
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Hi Danny, I'm near Perth in Scotland. Do you know anyone in this area? Many Thanks!
 
I dont off the top of my head but have put the word out on facebook and twitter... the nearest I have found is Aberdeen. ..lol

I will post if I have :)
 
superspread said:
Sorry guys justchecking was asking our professional opinion and you've slaughtered him/her,we've all been there when we want to ask advice about something we know nothing about, I certainly have . I don't think juctchecking came across as rude,every time someone comes on here for help they get sent away with a flee in there ear ,just my opinion :RpS_unsure:
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Thank you superspreader. You have summed up exactly how I feel about most (but not all) of the replies I've received!
 
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