Does Being Qualified Make You A Good Plasterer

Does going to College and doing an apprenticeship make you a better plasterer?

  • Yes it does make you better

    Votes: 4 8.9%

  • No it doesn't make you better

    Votes: 26 57.8%

  • Makes no difference

    Votes: 15 33.3%
  • Total voters
    45
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Jurek said:
thought the dado was a victorian thing typically at the height of the top of a dining chair so that the wall didnt get damaged every time someone pushed the chair back after dinner ... :RpS_unsure:

another thing being their doors opened into a room so that there will always - were possible - be a wall on the opening side. this gave people who w4anking or copulating or whatever that tiny bit of extra time to get themselves together before being seen .. :RpS_unsure:
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I thought the reason the door opened that way is because you would have to walk into the room to see it in all it's grandeur.
 
maybe. but it applies to bedrooms and servants quarters as well which would negate that thinking
 
Jurek said:
thought the dado was a victorian thing typically at the height of the top of a dining chair so that the wall didnt get damaged every time someone pushed the chair back after dinner ... :RpS_unsure:
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I thought this as well :RpS_biggrin:
 
thats why you get the dado in the living / dining rooms but nowhere else, traditionally. you get it in the hall but mainly because it gives it symmetry with the bannisters and carries on the theme that most guests would see in the two entertaining rooms. thats what my auntie told me ...
 
flynnyman said:
I think a 3/4 year indentured apprenticeship all block release like what's been mentioned will make you a better plasterer, it makes sense. I did an indentured apprenticeship and never learnt how to dot and dab till around five years after so was taught how to plaster a wall. forget your dot and dab and skimming for a minute because that's all a site spread will do these days and that's all that's required but get onto the domestic scene in all types of houses this is where an apprenticeship shows it's worth. There is so much you learn in college if the teaching is there and the desire to learn is there. I was on a house today and have a lad helping me who doesn't want to be a plasterer which suits us both, I removed a picture rail today which he called a dado and I put him right. He asked the difference between the two and what's the point of them so I told him "the picture rail is exactly what it says you hang pictures of it and it's decorative". It sounds common sense but some people wouldnt know that then onto the dado "that's also decorative but in some instances it's a man made crack, the bottom half of the wall was plastered in a cement mix to make it harder in places that took a lot of knocks like hospitals, The top half was done in a sand lime Morter to save money". Now I know some will say it's boring or when are you gonna use that in the real world? But that's not the point you have learnt something which one day you might use when someone asks :)
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why doesnt he want to be a plasterer, @flynnyman .... :RpS_confused: whys he helping you if you dont like him ..:RpS_confused:
 
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spunky said:
Yes they really are I'm sure the 2-3 years they spend in college and coming out with their head up their ass is a huge advantage over a young lad who's just gained twice the experience plus hands on 100%
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take it you didnt go to college ?? it was the norm years back, you did block release at college and learned on the job, imagine if you just worked on site skimming and didnt get any fibrous, rendering, screeding experience... at least by going to college it gave you an idea how to do ALL plastering jobs...
 
I did an online plastrin corse was only an hour long on youtubes now i fully qualified spreader, i uses google & youtubes & this forum for info so it looks like i know what i talk abouts to you lots & the customers, i am also time served, i served my time in prison :-)
 
cassie said:
take it you didnt go to college ?? it was the norm years back, you did block release at college and learned on the job, imagine if you just worked on site skimming and didnt get any fibrous, rendering, screeding experience... at least by going to college it gave you an idea how to do ALL plastering jobs...
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Cassie on a previous post you said you were on 120 a day, where did it all go wrong or am I missing something?
i get by by very well thank you on most plastering rendering and dry lining jobs and chose not to do domestic work because I can't stand it
 
spunky said:
Cassie on a previous post you said you were on 120 a day, where did it all go wrong or am I missing something?
i get by by very well thank you on most plastering rendering and dry lining jobs and chose not to do domestic work because I can't stand it
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I said in sheffield 120 was a decent average... I get a bit more than that ( read the posts more thoroughly in future ) '' where did it all go wrong '' ? I own a million pounds worth of property mate, so if thats going wrong I;ll stick to going wrong...
 
cassie said:
I said in sheffield 120 was a decent average... I get a bit more than that ( read the posts more thoroughly in future ) '' where did it all go wrong '' ? I own a million pounds worth of property mate, so if thats going wrong I;ll stick to going wrong...
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You must own Sheffield
 
cassie said:
yes mate, names craig by the way, cassies my staff..lol
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These are my 2 :RpS_thumbup:
Does Being Qualified Make You A Good Plasterer
 
To be honest the college aspect of an apprenticeship is just theory about what should be put into practice when on the tools.
I learned very quickly never to ask anything on site, I did exactly as I was told and tried to master each task, hump 50kg bags of thistle where ever I was told, most jobs I'd be shifting between 30 - 60 bags every two days and splitting between 2 gangs of 3 on 1.
How each gang wanted their gear knocked up, mix it (no wisks) steel bar and bicycle cog and god help you if there was 1 lump in it because the spot board would be thrown at me.
Buckets had to be spotless and ready for next set, gauge water and brush water put where each spread wanted it.
I had to do that for 2 years before I even got to look at a trowel, but if you could hack that and still show willing you slowly started to learn every intricate detail of the very basics of plastering.
I don't think a lot of the guys on here understand why some of us experienced time served spreads are so venomous towards "course plasterers" so hopefully this will shed some light on what a real apprenticeship was like, the course plasterers should show serious respect to the old school spreads and then you might get some knowledge shown back?
I can repair washing machines / dryers / electrics and I'm very very good at doing it, the only difference is I wouldn't dream of going in persons house and charging money to do a job I'm not really qualified to do! Do
 
Danny said:
I have worked with lots of plasterers over the years and some have just been on the tools a long time and others went the college route while others have been on a course....

But my question to you is do you think going to college and doing an apprenticeship makes you a better plasterer?

Danny
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no
 
I learned more in six months on site ,than I did in 5 yrs at college. i was an apprentice with Birmingham plasterers they were a member of the H A T Group, Tellings etc
 
topstrop1 said:
God a blast from the past H A Tellings I was a supervisor there in the 60s
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we done some work in the 60s, for johnson and davis of loughton they where in the hat group. supervisor was eddie branch.
tellings external installations, tei london , we done some ewi for them about 20 years ago.supervisor was tony bishby.
 
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