F**ckin useless C***ing labourers!!

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SpankySouthport

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Piss off this morning pulled up at the labs house at 6:45 and yet again not up! Nothing worse than pricks who can't get up! So any he's gone and starting another tomorrow, which would you say works best a youngen 16-18 or a 20 something? I always thought the latter but I'm now thinking otherwise, I've always had a 20 odd, which originally thought would work better as they wouldn't be as wet behind the ears but now I'm starting to think why would he still be a lab in his 20s because he's a useless **** about!

Not in the best of moods today if you didn't notice lol as I've had to put in a 12 hours day because of numb nuts :RpS_cursing:
 
I think if you can get the right (not easy) youngun then they're mouldable to your ways, whereas a twenty something is already set in his ways nine times out of ten already has an idea in his head how hard he thinks he should work for his money.
 
I don't think it's age I'm 20 something as you put it and I've done just 3 jobs since I left school and on my last one experienced a bit of plastering which I found great...

so I become unemployed builder I worked for gone quiet estate agents I was doing property maintenance for couldn't pay for the job role no more...


soo I'm 20 odd what do I do? I know I'm going to have a dam good crack at what I want to do not what have to do....so I been bashing my arse off sending out applications and emails posting like mad to try get a plasterer to take me on...but because I'm 20 something does that really mean I'd be worse than the school leaver?

i see both points but maybe you should chat to the labs before you take them and see what ambition and enthusiasm for plastering they have...and maybe test it by keeping the money Low :) just an idea of how I see it I maybe wrong as I'm no plasterer yet....
 
You need someone keen and willing to learn :-)

I was told I was an excellent labourer :-) made a great cup of tea :-)
 
Its a catch 22 young lads can be thick, lazy, disrespectfull, moody, spoilt, unreliable, mardy and older lads can be the same but more experienced lol so its down to the individual. I would offer someone a weeks work to see what they are like then give them a month trial, ban mobile phones, no smoking, no subbing, bring a pack lunch coz ime not taking you shopping, work late for nothing extra and leave early you get the day, tell them extra for weekends, get your own tools with your first wage, if youve not got a licence its coming out of your wages for lessons, dont ask why all the time you will find out in time, break my tools your paying, lose any your paying, let me down your gone, you are here to also clean my van, dont give your number out on my job, damage anything in a customers house your paying so on that note i will finish. Doubt your gonna get someone with all them rules but its a start lol
 
you need a lab who wants to be a plaster and is keen to learn and get stuck in, its easy to pick up some1 on the dole who is happy been a monkey a few days but has no goal therfore gets board n lets you down. not saying labours are monkeys by the way
 
As said in previous posts no more teenagers! Getting up early for work is just to hard!

For me its early 20's. Probably had a few jobs and lost a few. In their early 20's it's time to get their life in gear.

Dedicated full time labs are labs because they are not mentally set up for a job that brings with it responsibility. Labs need their arses wiping.

I had a run of labs and could not understand why anyone would want to be a plasterers labourer so I asked my then lab why he has resigned to a lifetime of low pay, hard work with no prospects. He told me it goes back to his childhood when if he did something wrong he would get into trouble. Also not doing well at school made hime fearful of being taught something and the fear of failure. So basically keep it as simple as possible, no risks, no responsibility and he knew his place in life.

Not all labourers are thick but few are intelligent either.
 
My only problem with having a labourer nowadays is lack of continuity of work. Had different people full time for nearly 10 years but now I just cant offer any security because of gaps in work.

One lad who worked with me for 3 years ( left me 2010) was an amazing grafter, we spent 4 months working in Taunton (about an hour to an hour and a half away) every morning 615 would be outside his house waiting never a minute late. I got so used to the dependability and graft. He went solo and I wished him all the best. He now stacks shelves and plasters part time. Its shame, he is a good spread and very likeable. For some reason or another he just couldnt get the work in.
 
the best labourers that we have employed have been men in there late 20s and upwards. people who could hod sand and cement,all day long with no whinging.
a plasterers labourer job has never been as easy as it is now. mixing paddles, fork lifts,screed pumps,etc.
 
I have had a few great ones,a few useless ones, some very stupid ones." can I have more money for mixing cement as its harder than mixing finish" yes I say but I have to pay less for mixing finish then.. one, I worked 20 mins extra monday, thirty extra tuesday ,works out at so much for the week. another one " I have to go early because of blah blah" I say why do you never say I have nothing to do this evening , can I stay late just because.. The best labourers are those wanting to be a plasterer.. Those wanting just to be labourers, well, no ambition for themselves ,how can they help you progress..One rang early one morning saying he had had a letter from the dentist and had to go.. Me"what ******* time does your post come, 5am?.. One guy texted I cannot work today as I took too many drugs.. One guy collapsed in the van shaking one morning due to a heavy drinking session, had to drop him to casualty... One job in Sloane street, the heart of London ,very posh area, the labourer dropped and burst a bag of cement on the pavement, then went back to get another one leaving that one burst open.. another labourer when told to put the dirty water in the skip threw it beside the skip and the road was dirty with pink streaks of plaster..so at five when going home I had to wash it ,hose it and brush it...
 
I had one dipshit lift the floorboards of an occupied house we were scimming and sweep all the crap down there to save himself bagging it up. needless to say he didnt last much longer
 
Just like John said above, the best labourers are the ones who want to learn. We get casuals in from time to time to help on bigger render jobs or loading out and the usual question you get "what time we finishing today?" one lad was learning with us was semi-skilled when he started nvq level 2 I think, he was good but we kept catching him measure the metres he would do in a day. Then he starting asking about rates. He would slow up when he felt he'd "covered his money". He branched off on his own but he is always the last person we think of when subbing out
 
I was a hoddy when 16 had no choice to get up early my old man was the builder. Then when the plasterers where the id bug the sh•t out of them to let me have ago they didn't let me so went go my own tools and started that way while the plasterers where shouting at me. WHAT THE F,,K ARE YOU DOING! so had no choice to teach me. Now I see kids or people my age not wanting to do any thing or stoned out there head
 
Your just a moaning bunch of T***s, get your finger out , do the graft yourself and keep all the dosh for your self.Fook all this picking up, dropping off and breaking tools.Then come on hear all night moaning about it.Sounds like too much energy too me.
I like to have my plaster mixed how i like it, my tools kept clean the way i like them and if any fooker goes in the back of my van and upsets how i have everything, or gets the front dirty i really get the hump.
 
kebab king said:
Your just a moaning bunch of T***s, get your finger out , do the graft yourself and keep all the dosh for your self.Fook all this picking up, dropping off and breaking tools.Then come on hear all night moaning about it.Sounds like too much energy too me.
I like to have my plaster mixed how i like it, my tools kept clean the way i like them and if any fooker goes in the back of my van and upsets how i have everything, or gets the front dirty i really get the hump.
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My thoughts exactly mr kebab
 
kebab king said:
Your just a moaning bunch of T***s, get your finger out , do the graft yourself and keep all the dosh for your self.Fook all this picking up, dropping off and breaking tools.Then come on hear all night moaning about it.Sounds like too much energy too me.
I like to have my plaster mixed how i like it, my tools kept clean the way i like them and if any fooker goes in the back of my van and upsets how i have everything, or gets the front dirty i really get the hump.
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No, not on rendering the old way. Hacking render off and shoveling it into a skip. Mixing gobbo in a mixer and carrying it up onto a scaffold by the bucket full. Doing rendering is heavy enough but mixing and carrying? Wear somebody else's back out and save your own. I spend all day on the trowel (well did before the tennis elbow) earning the coin, I have no time for unproductive labouring, get some monkey in to do it.

Government is expecting us to do this **** till were 66.
 
Day one of the new lab 26 seems keen but they all do on day 1, he's been a bricks labourer for a couple of years so he's not scared of a bit of hard work, nearly broke him fist thing though as he was cleaning a bucket out and split it! The first thing he did! Was ragging!! It's because he has laboured for a Bricky all tapping and banging **** about to clean them! (caveman comes to mind) 'me beat bucket with stick!' Lol, get a F*****g grip dick head! Scrape the buckets and clean with a brush!!

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i had one labourer mixing sand and cement in a mixer all morning with my van right beside it,the van was covered,he never had the sense to come and ask me to move my van just continued mixing,that was his first and last job with me,then i had my brother with me for a few months and he was thick could not think for himself at all, had to constantly tell him all the time,last straw was i was just leaving the house to go and pick him up, and the phone rang he says he can not come today as was going to a surprise party later that day,this was 7.30am in the morning ,where do i get another labourer that time of the day, i was not a happy bunny especially after i had told him on numerous occasions if you dont want to work no problem just let me have plenty of warning so i can get somebody else,so the 2 previous days he had worked with me that week i just never paid him,it was the only way he was going to learn
 
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