Float and set reveals

Cornelius

Cornelius

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So I'm on a job at the moment, float and set with hardwall. On the reveals though the way the windows have been put in (shambles) and also some fancy bead the architect wants, it means we are now dot and dabbing reveals and floating the wall only. I always thought it was standard practice to put a render stop bead up the window, keeping the correct margin all the way round the window frame and square angle beads off the stops and window frame. Float the reveals. Hopefully that was explained clearly enough. Now speaking to a spread today he simply just puts up the angles and freehands up to the window. Quicker but possibly not so precise. How do you guys normally set up your reveals? might sound like a daft question but just wanted to know. Cheers.
 
Cornelius said:
So I'm on a job at the moment, float and set with hardwall. On the reveals though the way the windows have been put in (shambles) and also some fancy bead the architect wants, it means we are now dot and dabbing reveals and floating the wall only. I always thought it was standard practice to put a render stop bead up the window, keeping the correct margin all the way round the window frame and square angle beads off the stops and window frame. Float the reveals. Hopefully that was explained clearly enough. Now speaking to a spread today he simply just puts up the angles and freehands up to the window. Quicker but possibly not so precise. How do you guys normally set up your reveals? might sound like a daft question but just wanted to know. Cheers.
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I dab the reveals. But like the idea of stop beads. Only ever did that on external.
 
Old school. Angle bead on corner, float reveal and rule with gauge off window frame, all square and plumb. Rub back s&C in the reveal to allow thicker coat of skim, you can gauge that as well. Tadah!
I only use a stop bead against the frame if the client is likely to change the windows in the future.
 
I used to if possible dab the boards on with an even width of frame showing and square up the boards. Not always possible though.
 
Varying methods, the stop bead against the frame with an even margin is how I was shown how to do it and I stuck with it. But I'm always happy to learn other ways. @Dropsalot rule with gauge? One of those triangles hooked on to the edge of the window a squangle? I'm probably sounding a bit thick but you've got to ask
 
Cornelius said:
Varying methods, the stop bead against the frame with an even margin is how I was shown how to do it and I stuck with it. But I'm always happy to learn other ways. @Dropsalot rule with gauge? One of those triangles hooked on to the edge of the window a squangle? I'm probably sounding a bit thick but you've got to ask
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Use one of those metal things you describe....
 
Dab reveals if i can, or its set beads square and Squangle of the frame n bead , or cut a bit ok board and rule with that.
 
Do any of ye use the window frame beads ? They are handy , screw them into the frame , slip the slab into them and sqaure it up . Work from the corner bead into the nib at the frame on the framing bead .and theres nothing to go wrong
 
Cornelius said:
So I'm on a job at the moment, float and set with hardwall. On the reveals though the way the windows have been put in (shambles) and also some fancy bead the architect wants, it means we are now dot and dabbing reveals and floating the wall only. I always thought it was standard practice to put a render stop bead up the window, keeping the correct margin all the way round the window frame and square angle beads off the stops and window frame. Float the reveals. Hopefully that was explained clearly enough. Now speaking to a spread today he simply just puts up the angles and freehands up to the window. Quicker but possibly not so precise. How do you guys normally set up your reveals? might sound like a daft question but just wanted to know. Cheers.
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I am with you on this one... I like to do reveals like that but I have not seen many others do it that way *they all reckon they are good enough without the need :D
 
Float and set reveals
The squangle, never seen one in action
 
Dab reveals for me to if given the choice, if they have to be floated float to the frame and rule them off. Hard getting it as straight and even as a dabbed board though.
 
moy83 said:
Do any of ye use the window frame beads ? They are handy , screw them into the frame , slip the slab into them and sqaure it up . Work from the corner bead into the nib at the frame on the framing bead .and theres nothing to go wrong
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Not seen them
 
moy83 said:
Do any of ye use the window frame beads ? They are handy , screw them into the frame , slip the slab into them and sqaure it up . Work from the corner bead into the nib at the frame on the framing bead .and theres nothing to go wrong
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I've seen them but didn't get to use them.
 
S and c, only corner bead and scribe the reveals square and straighten. 2 tight lick of skim to finish them, skim scribed and straightened to check it. Most jobs be on wouldn't pay u to set beads inside of the frame unless specifically requested (not to often, miserable fucks) lol
 
Usually square them with a trowel - long trowel edge resting on bead (pinch your two fingers on trowel where it rests on bead) and the nose of the trowel on the window frame, pinch your fingers on the trowel here also, then just pull up to rule off....perfect margin.
 
Cornelius said:
View attachment 15598 The squangle, never seen one in action
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Used one of them for years they were handy on timber frames but not on plastic they could scratch.
Most times ide use a wooden square and my thumb to keep it in line. When setting up beads you took the proudest point and pencil mark on your square then set the other beads to it. Some would be 5mm then another 15mm to float but you kept the margins the same.
 
to be honest... I wish plastering was more accurate... I like processes I like jigs to get things just right... I like things that work...

Using a tape measure is not accurate enough for me... I prefer a rule(r) that jibbly bit on the end of a measure is not good
 
moy83 said:
Do any of ye use the window frame beads ? They are handy , screw them into the frame , slip the slab into them and sqaure it up . Work from the corner bead into the nib at the frame on the framing bead .and theres nothing to go wrong
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Yes they are handy.J beads I think they are called.
 
that's what they look like and they are called plasterboard edge bead. Just make sure to skim the wider side or else you will get a crack running along the edge of the bead. We have to use them now on every new build here because all around the windows are taped for air tightness
 
Danny said:
to be honest... I wish plastering was more accurate... I like processes I like jigs to get things just right... I like things that work...

Using a tape measure is not accurate enough for me... I prefer a rule(r) that jibbly bit on the end of a measure is not good
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Why is that bit never fixed static??
Would it be so difficult???
I believe we put a man on the moon.:estudioso:
 
Bahhhhhh.....far to technical for me this thread!...

Just eye the f**k**s up always look alright from my house!!!!!
 
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