general election july, 2024.

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hector

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So, election not far away now, personally i think the conservatives will be out, the results for them will be devastating and the worst they will have ever seen in there history, safe tory seats up and down the country will be lost, never to return to the tories,
boris/liz truss /david cameron, and the rest of the lying cheating scumbags, will be gone, they have ruined this country, and its workforce,
new generation of voters now, new voters for the first time, people up and down the country are paying the price for there lies more lies and deceit, with job losses/cost of living/gas/electric bills/, ruined this country,
they do not give a damn about the working class,
honestly and seriously think they will never get into power again, sooner they are gone the better,

Labour to win by an absoloute avalanche, come on Keir, this is your time do not let the working class down,

we are all working class it is nothing to be ashamed of, it is something to be proud of.
 
Tories and Labour 2 cheeks of the same ass hole !
Both f**k**g liars that make nothing better just manage decline and ruin of everything they touch !
Manifestos not worth the paper they're written on ! As soon as they get in they blame the last lot for not being able to complete the promises they made getting voted in for !
More stealth taxes and high bills are all you can count on them for and much worse !
None of them worth voting for as they're all in a club that decides regardless who we choose!
Liberals are a dead joke !
Reform have good ideas but I don't trust yet another posh boy millionaire career politician like Tice ! Even if Farage takes the helm there he's an ego tripper!

So it looks like we're still f**k*d which ever way it goes , immigration continuing to grow out of control ! Crime off the charts ! Corruption accelerating ! Pumping billions ££££ abroad when needed here ! NHS, education, economy, jobs etc etc no improvements that the working class really notice or feel the benefit of long term?
 
general election july, 2024.
 
hector said:
So, election not far away now, personally i think the conservatives will be out, the results for them will be devastating and the worst they will have ever seen in there history, safe tory seats up and down the country will be lost, never to return to the tories,
boris/liz truss /david cameron, and the rest of the lying cheating scumbags, will be gone, they have ruined this country, and its workforce,
new generation of voters now, new voters for the first time, people up and down the country are paying the price for there lies more lies and deceit, with job losses/cost of living/gas/electric bills/, ruined this country,
they do not give a damn about the working class,
honestly and seriously think they will never get into power again, sooner they are gone the better,

Labour to win by an absoloute avalanche, come on Keir, this is your time do not let the working class down,

we are all working class it is nothing to be ashamed of, it is something to be proud of.
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You mean don’t let the working class down like the last labour government? Who opened the door to cheap Eastern European labour and killed the working man in this country, at least Brexit got rid of a few that Blair let in!!
 
hector said:
So, election not far away now, personally i think the conservatives will be out, the results for them will be devastating and the worst they will have ever seen in there history, safe tory seats up and down the country will be lost, never to return to the tories,
boris/liz truss /david cameron, and the rest of the lying cheating scumbags, will be gone, they have ruined this country, and its workforce,
new generation of voters now, new voters for the first time, people up and down the country are paying the price for there lies more lies and deceit, with job losses/cost of living/gas/electric bills/, ruined this country,
they do not give a damn about the working class,
honestly and seriously think they will never get into power again, sooner they are gone the better,

Labour to win by an absoloute avalanche, come on Keir, this is your time do not let the working class down,

we are all working class it is nothing to be ashamed of, it is something to be proud of.
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Do you really trust kier starmer everything else you said my 12 year old could say, what if we went to war ?
 
spunky said:
Do you really trust kier starmer everything else you said my 12 year old could say, what if we went to war ?
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i do trust kier , spunky,
war is inevitable thanks to putin,
russia has only i aircraft carrier, which belches out thick black smoke from its engines,
its tanks/armoured carriers have been destroyed with the drones ,
poor morale and poor outdated weapons .
having to go to north korea and china for help,
criminals released from prison, and sent to the front line ,
ukraine has been a massive shock for him,

we are part of nato.
 
Smudger1 said:
Tories and Labour 2 cheeks of the same ass hole !
Both f**k**g liars that make nothing better just manage decline and ruin of everything they touch !
Manifestos not worth the paper they're written on ! As soon as they get in they blame the last lot for not being able to complete the promises they made getting voted in for !
More stealth taxes and high bills are all you can count on them for and much worse !
None of them worth voting for as they're all in a club that decides regardless who we choose!
Liberals are a dead joke !
Reform have good ideas but I don't trust yet another posh boy millionaire career politician like Tice ! Even if Farage takes the helm there he's an ego tripper!

So it looks like we're still f**k*d which ever way it goes , immigration continuing to grow out of control ! Crime off the charts ! Corruption accelerating ! Pumping billions ££££ abroad when needed here ! NHS, education, economy, jobs etc etc no improvements that the working class really notice or feel the benefit of long term?
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hard to disagree with what you say smudger,
but sadly unfourtanetly this is the political system we have , and it aint going to change anytime soon,
certainly not in our lifetimes,
 
hector said:
hard to disagree with what you say smudger,
but sadly unfourtanetly this is the political system we have , and it aint going to change anytime soon,
certainly not in our lifetimes,
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Brexit never really happened fully the way it should have !
Those in charge here never wanted or supported it unlike the majority winning vote by ordinary folk. . It's like a bunch of MP heroin addicts being put in charge of gaurding a huge bag of smack implementing Brexit !
The corrupt eu super state lied at every stage and cost us a fortune for little say in how the corrupt dictatorship was run.
I could list how bad staying in that sick bent eu s**t show would be. But your mate Starmer will probably try and sneak us back in through lies and false promises through the back door to speed up the ruination of uk plc that the Tories and blaire before him have done a right number on it !
Traitors and cnuts the lot of them.
 
Smudger1 said:
Brexit never really happened fully the way it should have !
Those in charge here never wanted or supported it unlike the majority winning vote by ordinary folk. . It's like a bunch of MP heroin addicts being put in charge of gaurding a huge bag of smack implementing Brexit !
The corrupt eu super state lied at every stage and cost us a fortune for little say in how the corrupt dictatorship was run.
I could list how bad staying in that sick bent eu s**t show would be. But your mate Starmer will probably try and sneak us back in through lies and false promises through the back door to speed up the ruination of uk plc that the Tories and blaire before him have done a right number on it !
Traitors and cnuts the lot of them.
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Smudger for pm:numberone:
 
hector said:
i do trust kier , spunky,
war is inevitable thanks to putin,
russia has only i aircraft carrier, which belches out thick black smoke from its engines,
its tanks/armoured carriers have been destroyed with the drones ,
poor morale and poor outdated weapons .
having to go to north korea and china for help,
criminals released from prison, and sent to the front line ,
ukraine has been a massive shock for him,

we are part of nato.
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There’s no helping you Hector, you’re as naive as a child.
 
Rossi46 said:
There’s no helping you Hector, you’re as naive as a child.
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well rossi, in the coming days and weeks , the election will dominate the news, radio/newspapers/online/news channels, voters will never have had so much information ,

but this is going to be a disaster for the conservatives,

so there must be an awful lot of naive voters out there,
 
superspread said:
How has your life changed since Brexit?? I haven’t noticed any difference!! Except earning more money
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i think the people who have lost there jobs all over the country might just disagree with you superspread,
car plants closing down, land rover/honda/nissan etc etc either closing plants or not investing in this country anymore, financial institutions /farming/fishing industry/steel works ,th e list goes on and on, not to mention the huge queues at dover, more paperwork,

seriously superspread just spend some time on the internet thingy, keep an open mind, and just read
about the companies i have mentioned and many many more, read about the ammount of people who regret voting for brexit, hauliers with the problems they have now, and just pause and think , and once these places close down they aint coming back,

i think if you had worked at sayyyy honda car plant at swindon which closed down blaming brexit,
and your job has gone/mortgage/cost of living etc , you might have a different view,

but hey ho, if you are happy , thats fine thats okay , there has got to be some people out there who will vote conservative, boris/liz truss/cameron etc ,
 
hector said:
i think the people who have lost there jobs all over the country might just disagree with you superspread,
car plants closing down, land rover/honda/nissan etc etc either closing plants or not investing in this country anymore, financial institutions /farming/fishing industry/steel works ,th e list goes on and on, not to mention the huge queues at dover, more paperwork,

seriously superspread just spend some time on the internet thingy, keep an open mind, and just read
about the companies i have mentioned and many many more, read about the ammount of people who regret voting for brexit, hauliers with the problems they have now, and just pause and think , and once these places close down they aint coming back,

i think if you had worked at sayyyy honda car plant at swindon which closed down blaming brexit,
and your job has gone/mortgage/cost of living etc , you might have a different view,

but hey ho, if you are happy , thats fine thats okay , there has got to be some people out there who will vote conservative, boris/liz truss/cameron etc ,
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To simplify everything financially, there's too many middlemen (persons) that get paid handsomely for doing f**k all!

Living off the backs of other people's hard work.
 
hector said:
brexit is a disaster for this country, and will continue to be a disaster for decades to come,
boris and his cronies lied and lied
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No its not it's great for this country. We have relied for to long on imported labour and goods to grow the economy in the short term this has been devastating for skills, manufacturing, industry, training everything. We need 'Made in Britain' on everything and for it to be high quality. We can't rely on services. It has never been better for the trades and will only get better if we do not import cheap labour. If Labour get in there is a high risk that they will open the gates again. We need to be bold and pump money into big infrastructure projects and be a leader in tech and AI.
 
hector said:
i do trust kier , spunky,
war is inevitable thanks to putin,
russia has only i aircraft carrier, which belches out thick black smoke from its engines,
its tanks/armoured carriers have been destroyed with the drones ,
poor morale and poor outdated weapons .
having to go to north korea and china for help,
criminals released from prison, and sent to the front line ,
ukraine has been a massive shock for him,

we are part of nato.
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You do know the west went to war with putin and not putin with the the west right ?
 
hector said:
i think the people who have lost there jobs all over the country might just disagree with you superspread,
car plants closing down, land rover/honda/nissan etc etc either closing plants or not investing in this country anymore, financial institutions /farming/fishing industry/steel works ,th e list goes on and on, not to mention the huge queues at dover, more paperwork,

seriously superspread just spend some time on the internet thingy, keep an open mind, and just read
about the companies i have mentioned and many many more, read about the ammount of people who regret voting for brexit, hauliers with the problems they have now, and just pause and think , and once these places close down they aint coming back,

i think if you had worked at sayyyy honda car plant at swindon which closed down blaming brexit,
and your job has gone/mortgage/cost of living etc , you might have a different view,

but hey ho, if you are happy , thats fine thats okay , there has got to be some people out there who will vote conservative, boris/liz truss/cameron etc ,
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Nissan has just invested 3 billion in ev vehicles ( you’ll now tell me that got tax incentives zzzzz)
Jaguar Land Rover again have invested 3/4 billion into the electric vehicle all in Great Britain ! I think you just read the rhetoric and spout what you hear, it’s all nonsense!!
Like I said to you earlier has YOUR life been affected by Brexit???? No of course it hasn’t!!
 
The fortune uk pumped into eu every year when we were caught up in it was partly used to relocate big businesses here to eastern Europe killing brit jobs which was a big hit compared to the lip service eu grants dished out here !
Plus all the fines and skimming off us for not complying with the beaurocratic red tape and eu rules that the French, Greeks etc just ignored while our traitors in charge coughed up no questions asked !
Instead of investing in our farms and fishing industry they made them reliant on subsidy hand outs so they got strangled by big supermarkets and eu factory fishing etc, and now are on thier knees as seen in that Clarkson farm thing. And our fishing boat licences sold to big eu fleets as catch quotas here for our own resulted in huge waste while thier factory trawllers threw nothing back.
 
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Smudger1 said:
The fortune uk pumped into eu every year when we were caught up in it was partly used to relocate big businesses here to eastern Europe killing brit jobs which was a big hit compared to the lip service eu grants dished out here !
Plus all the fines and skimming off us for not complying with the beaurocratic red tape and eu rules that the French, Greeks etc just ignored while our traitors in charge coughed up no questions asked !
Instead of investing in our farms and fishing industry they made them reliant on subsidy hand outs so they got strangled by big supermarkets and eu factory fishing etc, and now are on thier knees as seen in that Clarkson farm thing. And our fishing boat licences sold to big eu fleets as catch quotas here for our own resulted in huge waste while thier factory trawllers threw nothing back.
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You should see the money that has been spent in Poland...new infrastructure everywhere...huge projects...the country is booming with all the money that is being pumped into it by the EU.

And what has it felt like over here...like we have been drained like a f**king bath tub...we gave everything but got nothing in return.

Our services crumbled not because of lack of investment but because of being massively over subscribed by economic migrants and their families and an aging population.
 
hector said:
i do trust kier , spunky,
war is inevitable thanks to putin,
russia has only i aircraft carrier, which belches out thick black smoke from its engines,
its tanks/armoured carriers have been destroyed with the drones ,
poor morale and poor outdated weapons .
having to go to north korea and china for help,
criminals released from prison, and sent to the front line ,
ukraine has been a massive shock for him,

we are part of nato.
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Mate Russia are top of the pile I think with weaponry
USA apparently don’t have hypersonic missiles afaik they’ve invested money in lazers
Russia have missiles that can reach the uk in just over two minutes tipped with convential or nuclear warheads
Nuclear tipped submarine torpedoes which n Korea also have
If you look at the speed of the missiles America aircraft carriers wouldn’t stand a chance they would all be gone as soon as they went to see unless the lasers really are that good
If we all went to war I doubt tanks infantry and planes would even come into it
Hypersonic missiles are almost impossible to shoot down and cost a million quid each lol
 
I never got the aircraft carrier thing there the slowest moving biggest target out there imo there outdated now
 
I wondered if that recent plane turbulence thing was a Russian military test on disabling machinery through directed shock waves or summit what you reckon @000 ?
 
superspread said:
Nissan has just invested 3 billion in ev vehicles ( you’ll now tell me that got tax incentives zzzzz)
Jaguar Land Rover again have invested 3/4 billion into the electric vehicle all in Great Britain ! I think you just read the rhetoric and spout what you hear, it’s all nonsense!!
Like I said to you earlier has YOUR life been affected by Brexit???? No of course it hasn’t!!
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on a personal level superspread, no my life has not been affected by brexit,
but i look at the bigger picture and more long term effects of brexit,
 
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