Grit does not always work

Tom81 said:
Yeah radiologists are clever
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Grit does not always work


I know. That's why I bought two of them
 
megamix said:
I’ve noticed that the cemtone stuff is really smooth and doesn’t have much grit in it . I know it rolls on better but maybe that’s why it’s failing (not gritty enough ) . Now the thistle bond it is expensive but it’s really gritty to the point where you need to keep stirring it because all the grit falls to the bottom . So maybe if your gonna use it bite the bullet and buy the good stuff . I’d put money that the one in this post is not thistle bond it .
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Just remembered it will either be thistle or more likely one from sovereign.... There rep got me into there grit many moons ago...
 
MakeItSmooth said:
I hope the customer's being cool about it - obviously you did reasonable work for it to last 5 yrs - it's really unlucky for you and for them that the bond eventually failed.

I assume you'll re-do it for free but then tell them you can't guarantee it more than another couple of years, since the artex itself is out of your control?
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Who the heck gives a 5 year guarantee on a overskim.seriously 90 days.do you buy a any item thats not brand new and carry that warranty.this is a lesson to us all that even grit aint 100%.you will know more if the rest is loose or solid.
 
essexandy said:
I'm not going to read through the three pages of comments, but it looks like the skim is way too thick.
That said, if it's been up there eight years I don't think you should be redoing free of charge.
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Not been back yet to see the job bud so not sure how thick it went on but its got coving in and the profile is 10mm and there is still at least 6-7mm of it still showing....they must have shocked the ceiling from above.....
 
brimplas1 said:
Not been back yet to see the job bud so not sure how thick it went on but its got coving in and the profile is 10mm and there is still at least 6-7mm of it still showing....they must have shocked the ceiling from above.....
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Is the ceiling,lath or plasterboard
 
brimplas1 said:
Not been back yet to see the job bud so not sure how thick it went on but its got coving in and the profile is 10mm and there is still at least 6-7mm of it still showing....they must have shocked the ceiling from above.....
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It might not be thick, it just looks like it is in the pictures.
 
Donzo said:
Who the heck gives a 5 year guarantee on a overskim.seriously 90 days.do you buy a any item thats not brand new and carry that warranty.this is a lesson to us all that even grit aint 100%.you will know more if the rest is loose or solid.
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Totally fair point and I don't disagree.

I didn't say OP should do it for free, it's just that OP didn't come on here ranting, so I therefore assumed was going to take the diplomatic route with customer.

Frankly, whoever dreamt up artex, decades ago (and decided it was OK to put asbestos in the bloody stuff) screwed-over at least 2 generations of homeowners and tradespeople. Quite a monumental F-up for all concerned.
On the bright side, many current new-builds will have disintegrated within 30 yrs, so probably won't ever need any replastering.
 
brimplas1 said:
Plasterboard
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Even worse then, i would not be fixing that for free.i would say get someone else or contact grit manufacturer.5 years is nonsense for you to be liable.
Anything over 2 to 3mm of finish and you will be out of spec.
Unless you used bonding first.then finished.
 
Stevieo said:
As above - I thought the stuff was so expensive because it's bomb proof. I've been going around telling customers it's a miracle product
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steve throughout my short time plastering 55 yrs I have never had a problem with pva 50 /50 mix but would not go weaker on the mix
 
brimplas1 said:
Just got a message to say a ceiling i did over 5 years ago failed...
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Unlucky. Always the chance. I use x tex now or if the customer wants to save a bit of money they can use it. Water based. can get 5 lts on amazon for £35. No dust, no asbestos, no risk of failing etc.
 
brimplas1 said:
Well i went back to the job today and could completely shell the whole ceiling off... lucky the whole thing didnt come off on top of them.:mad:
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I had a grit over artex in january, 1 wall,sand ,lime as original basecoat,once skimmed with bonding,finish crazed. No reason i could think off. didnt sound hollow.
Painted it with polycell,asked customer to call a month later,said no issues.
I still think grit is more reliable than pva.
If you read spec for some grit, the green one by bostik,if the surface is high suction
It might still not be suitable,they have a high suction stabiliser.

That grit looks like bostik i use. Still wont change it,i like that compared to other brands.fail or not.lol
 
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Donzo said:
I had a grit over artex in january, 1 wall,sand ,lime as original basecoat,once skimmed with bonding,finish crazed. No reason i could think off. didnt sound hollow.
Painted it with polycell,asked customer to call a month later,said no issues.
I still think grit is more reliable than pva.
If you read spec for some grit, the green one by bostik,if the surface is high suction
It might still not be suitable,they have a high suction stabiliser.

That grit looks like bostik i use. Still wont change it,i like that compared to other brands.fail or not.lol
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I like the bostik but its the 2nd one that has failed on me.....after taking the whole ceiling off with a wall paper scraper i will not use again....... The bond between the skim and grit was piss poor...... I got the whole ceiling off and didnt remove on bit if grit.......
 
brimplas1 said:
I like the bostik but its the 2nd one that has failed on me.....after taking the whole ceiling off with a wall paper scraper i will not use again....... The bond between the skim and grit was piss poor...... I got the whole ceiling off and didnt remove on bit if grit.......
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Was it bostik you used,2 grit failures. Bad
 
If im honest i dont think it was.... I think it was one I got off sovereign (damp course company)... But my problem with the grit is it only provides a key.... No adhesion....
 
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