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Rossi46 said:
These slimey shits in government only weeks ago denied there was any such thing as a vaccine passport even though they had already paid tech experts to help them with the roll out!!!They lie at every opportunity and now they think that calling it a vaccine certificate will soften the approach. It’s being fed slowly but surely and they’re starting with the one thing they know the majority enjoy. Pubs/Bars/Restaurants
This is happening, like it or not, it’s already planned they’re just pretending it’s being discussed and deliberated.
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I hear you will have to type your vaccine code passport number in to be able to watch porn?
 
spread95 said:
So what do you suggest as your so worldly
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I suggest you consider the possibility that democracy may be an illusion.

You may consider that possibility and conclude that the possibility is nonsense, in which case I wish you all the luck in the world.

...or, you may arrive at a different conclusion, in which case, you will have an opportunity to question a lot more of your social conditoning.

I don't claim to have all the answers, but I have concluded, on my own terms, that we humanbeings are conditioned (aka brainwashed) from birth to believe in a certain view of the world, a huge chunk of which does not serve our best interests, but rather the interests of a selfish few who seek to benefit at our expense.


I don't think I'm 'special'. I just think too few people question their social conditioning (although an increasing number of people are beginning to).
We are not taught to reason at school - we are taught to unquestioningly believe in, and regurgitate, what we have read in books (or seen on the TV 'news'), as if it's impossible for books or the 'news' to be filled with lies or half-truths. There is a reason for that educational approach - a society full of people taught not to reason or question is a society that is easier to control, manipulate and exploit.
 
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MakeItSmooth said:
I suggest you consider the possibility that democracy may be an illusion.

You may consider that possibility and conclude that the possibility is nonsense, in which case I wish you all the luck in the world.

...or, you may arrive at a different conclusion, in which case, you will have an opportunity to question a lot more of your social conditoning.

I don't claim to have all the answers, but I have concluded, on my own terms, that we humanbeings are conditioned (aka brainwashed) from birth to believe in a certain view of the world, a huge chunk of which does not serve our best interests, but rather the interests of a selfish few who seek to benefit at our expense.


I don't think I'm 'special'. I just think too few people question their social conditioning. We are not taught to reason at school - we are taught to unquestioningly believe in, and regurgitate, what we have read in books, as if it's impossible for books to be filled with lies or half-truths. There is a reason for that educational approach - a society full of people taught not to reason or question is a society that is easier to control
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What are the parents doing when all this social conditioning is going on.
 
spread95 said:
What are the parents doing when all this social conditioning is going on.
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Parenting has some influence too, but this is more about each adult pausing, for possibly the first time in their lives, and actually questioning their conditioned view of the way the world works.

What are you doing to question your own social conditioning?


If you want to control a population, how could you go about it?

Perhaps you could choose to be a ruthless dictator, and control the population by fear. However, even a population controlled by fear will eventually grow to resent their oppression and lack of freedom, and may eventually rebel and overthrow their oppressor/dictator.

Alternatively, you could offer the population an illusion of freedom, wherein the population is taught, from birth, to believe that they DO have some control over the way they live their lives and over the way their part of the world is run. All this, just from ticking a box on a piece of paper, once every 4 years! "Sounds like an amazing deal - sign me up!". And much less likelihood of resentment and rebellion from a population who believe that they have some control, rather than being controlled & oppressed...


Do you see how the game may be being played, at your expense?
 
MakeItSmooth said:
Parenting has some influence too, but this is more about each adult pausing, for possibly the first time in their lives, and actually questioning their conditioned view of the way the world works.

What are you doing to question your own social conditioning?


If you want to control a population, how could you go about it?

Perhaps you could choose to be a ruthless dictator, and control the population by fear. However, even a population controlled by fear will eventually grow to resent their oppression and lack of freedom, and may eventually rebel and overthrow their oppressor/dictator.

Alternatively, you could offer the population an illusion of freedom, wherein the population is taught, from birth, to believe that they DO have some control over the way they live their lives and over the way their part of the world is run. All this, just from ticking a box on a piece of paper, once every 4 years! "Sounds like an amazing deal - sign me up!". And much less likelihood of resentment and rebellion from a population who believe that they have some control, rather than being controlled & oppressed...


Do you see how the game may be being played, at your expense?
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Thats far to complicated I was taught to work earn money and enjoy life and thats what I've done.
 
spread95 said:
What are the parents doing when all this social conditioning is going on.
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They've already been conditioned tears ago ...think about it.. what do we teach our kids? What we were taught ourselves.
Polish your shoes,pay attention,don't ,don't be late, answer back, do as your told,get good grades and get a good job..

Sons and daughters of the elite will get conditioned to see us as commodities, be selfish,go against the crowd, don't do what they ( the poor do) , qualifications arnt that important capital is, network,abuse daddies connections etc.
 
windy said:
They've already been conditioned tears ago ...think about it.. what do we teach our kids? What we were taught ourselves.
Polish your shoes,pay attention,don't ,don't be late, answer back, do as your told,get good grades and get a good job..

Sons and daughters of the elite will get conditioned to see us as commodities, be selfish,go against the crowd, don't do what they ( the poor do) , qualifications arnt that important capital is, network,abuse daddies connections etc.
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So how will you teach your kids to improve the situation?
Perhaps if you condition them to not polish there shoes,don't pay attention, make sure your late and answer back, dont do as your told, f**k the grades and dont get a job maybe your world will be a better place.
 
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spread95 said:
So how will you teach your kids to improve the situation?
Perhaps if you condition them to not polish there shoes,don't pay attention, make sure your late and answer back, dont do as your told, f**k the grades and dont get a job maybe your world will be a better place.
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no, you teach them to question things and critical thinking skills, which are the things they don't want children to learn, because they then become independent thinkers and more difficult to control and lie to.
 
raytheplasterer said:
no, you teach them to question things and critical thinking skills, which are the things they don't want children to learn, because they then become independent thinkers and more difficult to control and lie to.
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By showing them how to get on you tube.So when did this style of education start I was taught to think for myself and question others and learn by watching others and using that information, decide the best way forward.
The difference was we did it face to face
 
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spread95 said:
By showing them how to get on you tube.
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not really mate, maybe it's thing that some people are more predisposed to learning than others, but there is a definate drive towards educating kids to become more stupid and not to think for themselves for the reasons above. And you're right there is an awful load of shite on youtube and the internet but there is a lot of decent and useful information on there aswell.
 
What can we do? - Well, I've told mine they are the new elite - see us as commodities, be selfish,go against the crowd, don't do what they ( the poor do) , qualifications are important and so is capital, network,abuse daddies/mummies connections etc.

And did they listen?...
 
Brimstone said:
What can we do? - Well, I've told mine they are the new elite - see us as commodities, be selfish,go against the crowd, don't do what they ( the poor do) , qualifications are important and so is capital, network,abuse daddies/mummies connections etc.

And did they listen?...
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Reverse psychology mate
 
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