Hot weather vs rendering

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Dr pepper

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Hi hope all are well?

Quick question, did some sand an cement rendering back in june scratch coat and then bit of top coating. Problem at the time was that weather was roasting about 26 27, with the sun shining directly at some of the walls, explained to builder at time that not happy nor best idea as this weather an heat was no good for rendering as will force dry and crumble, but and even with a second opinion from the bricklayer on site that weather is to much, insisted on scratching then rendering being done anyway, said at the time that wasn't happy doing this an if does go tits up not taking the flack, to which builder agreed.

Backgrounds rendered on to was existing non painted brick work that brushed down soaked and pva, and new thermalite block work which soaked an sbr cement slurried, am I right in thinking had weather been 10 degree lower would have thought this prep work would have been ok? Have prepped said backgrounds like this before an not had problem with crumbling and blowing. Can only think it must of been heat that has dried the sand and cement to quickly an hasn't set cured properly force dried as such?

Had builder on phone yesterday saying I need to come an rectify, as its crumbled an blown in areas, explained that did have this convo with him that far to hot to render and also bricklayer as witness, but has dismissed it an saying it's on me.

What do I do? Dont want to get a bad name, as shoddy workmanship but only went ahead on his insistence and pressure "needs to be done" "no time left on job" attitude.

Any advice would be much appreciated!
Apologies for essay!
 
Dr pepper said:
Hi hope all are well?

Quick question, did some sand an cement rendering back in june scratch coat and then bit of top coating. Problem at the time was that weather was roasting about 26 27, with the sun shining directly at some of the walls, explained to builder at time that not happy nor best idea as this weather an heat was no good for rendering as will force dry and crumble, but and even with a second opinion from the bricklayer on site that weather is to much, insisted on scratching then rendering being done anyway, said at the time that wasn't happy doing this an if does go tits up not taking the flack, to which builder agreed.

Backgrounds rendered on to was existing non painted brick work that brushed down soaked and pva, and new thermalite block work which soaked an sbr cement slurried, am I right in thinking had weather been 10 degree lower would have thought this prep work would have been ok? Have prepped said backgrounds like this before an not had problem with crumbling and blowing. Can only think it must of been heat that has dried the sand and cement to quickly an hasn't set cured properly force dried as such?

Had builder on phone yesterday saying I need to come an rectify, as its crumbled an blown in areas, explained that did have this convo with him that far to hot to render and also bricklayer as witness, but has dismissed it an saying it's on me.

What do I do? Dont want to get a bad name, as shoddy workmanship but only went ahead on his insistence and pressure "needs to be done" "no time left on job" attitude.

Any advice would be much appreciated!
Apologies for essay!
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Tell him to f**k off.
 
It was done at the builders insistence, so he must pay for it to be repaired. If he's not prepared to do that then it's his problem. That's the problem with builders for every good one there's plenty of others that are shysters.
 
paulf said:
It was done at the builders insistence, so he must pay for it to be repaired. If he's not prepared to do that then it's his problem. That's the problem with builders for every good one there's plenty of others that are shysters.
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Only had done a couple of job for him prior and seemed ok paid up no prob, but was always pressing saying up against it
 
Dr pepper said:
Only had done a couple of job for him prior and seemed ok paid up no prob, but was always pressing saying up against it
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That's the problem to many builder's spread themselves to thin so they want everything done yesterday desperately trying to get the money in to keep all the plates spinning.
 
malc said:
in hot weather the render needs to be sprayed with the hose to slow the drying out to quickly. it should then be covered with hessian ,this also needs to be dampened. it is called protection of work.
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Shouldn't have started it in first place with high sight, just stuck to guns an said no
 
Dr pepper said:
More than familiar...

So is the bottom line is that this is my thought and I'm completely liable for this?
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Personally I think you f**k*d up, but, and it's a massive but, you covered yourself by telling the w**k*r that it shouldn't be done and he forced your hand.
Tell him to f**k off. If he says he'll pay for it to be redone make sure you have it in writing. Trust no c**t, especially algeeman.
 
essexandy said:
Personally I think you f**k*d up, but, and it's a massive but, you covered yourself by telling the w**k*r that it shouldn't be done and he forced your hand.
Tell him to f**k off. If he says he'll pay for it to be redone make sure you have it in writing. Trust no c**t, especially algeeman.
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And one of these to.
:ROFLMAO:
 
essexandy said:
Personally I think you f**k*d up, but, and it's a massive but, you covered yourself by telling the w**k*r that it shouldn't be done and he forced your hand.
Tell him to f**k off. If he says he'll pay for it to be redone make sure you have it in writing. Trust no c**t, especially algeeman.
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On my behalf would you say prep work was wrong? Soaked brickwork then pva, soak an sbr slurry blockwork, and mixes 4-1?

How would you tackle said substrates?

Any advice would be much appreciated
 
I’ve got one:
Get him round, cos your laid up with broken shoulders or collars or something, get him to fit a catheter on you, film it, act the part of a vulnerable disabled person, Sue him for s*x abuse of disabled people but say you will drop the charges if he drops the crumbly render case
:rebotando:
 
Gathering from responses so far it's a combo of builder rushing job insisting on job being done regardless of heat an consequences, and bad prep and mixing ratios on my behalf?

I'm all ears for advice gents as to where an how have gone wrong dont want to make same mistakes again

Cheers
 
Monkey Boy said:
I’ve got one:
Get him round, cos your laid up with broken shoulders or collars or something, get him to fit a catheter on you, film it, act the part of a vulnerable disabled person, Sue him for s*x abuse of disabled people but say you will drop the charges if he drops the crumbly render case
:rebotando:
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I knew this broken bone business would have its upside... its goner be all be the detail might smear some yogurt on me sling an accuse him of bolting his load on my handicap?:tanguero:
 
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