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zombie said:
what if your roughing and levelling areas out,pulling out beads,covering artex etc

Surely you cant always scrape on your first malc or do you fill your areas prior to skimming mate apposed to on your first coat?
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we do not rough out any areas using multi finish, nor do we pull out to beads. we always scrape artex down ,if the pattern is heavy or one of the fan patterns we lay a coat of bonding on first.
 
malc said:
we do not rough out any areas using multi finish, nor do we pull out to beads. we always scrape artex down ,if the pattern is heavy or one of the fan patterns we lay a coat of bonding on first.
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With putting on such a thin 1st malc do you find that you can use the same mix for your 2nd coat or do you still use a fresh mix mate?
 
zombie said:
With putting on such a thin 1st malc do you find that you can use the same mix for your 2nd coat or do you still use a fresh mix mate?
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we usually save a bit from the first coat to remix with the second coat to gee things up abit
 
malc said:
we usually save a bit from the first coat to remix with the second coat to gee things up abit
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As in add additional water and powder to whats left over and mix it all up together?.... or just add bit of water to left over gear and remix?

Only asking mate as always looking for new ways and had never considered a really thin 1st until you commented a few weeks ago on a thread ive always put a heavy first on with a tighter 2nd.
 
I personally don't like a lot of the bodge it and legit ways promoted as 'quality plastering' I would run people off my site for a lot of the ways stated on this thread, that's just me, if others are happy with it that's fine too ,there is the right way and the dirty water cement old mix way, but needs must I suppose, I earn enough my way and I suppose they earn enough there way
 
zombie said:
As in add additional water and powder to whats left over and mix it all up together?.... or just add bit of water to left over gear and remix?

Only asking mate as always looking for new ways and had never considered a really thin 1st until you commented a few weeks ago on a thread ive always put a heavy first on with a tighter 2nd.
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we do a complete new mix for the second coat, if we want to speed the set up we would put a couple of hawk fulls into the water then add the powder.
plastering seems to evolve differently in different areas. we put the first coat on tight, no lines, just covering the board. no need to flatten. second coat lay on thicker, no lines no holes it should look like it can be finished easy. first trowel, scrape off some plaster, second trowel all strokes the same length. final quick trowel all strokes the same length. that is the best way that i can describe the process. i have had lot of plasterers ask how do you do that ?
 
johniosaif said:
I personally don't like a lot of the bodge it and legit ways promoted as 'quality plastering' I would run people off my site for a lot of the ways stated on this thread, that's just me, if others are happy with it that's fine too ,there is the right way and the dirty water cement old mix way, but needs must I suppose, I earn enough my way and I suppose they earn enough there way
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john, we go home 2 30 to 3 o clock. we do not want to be messing around to 5 o clock
 
Been a good thread this , malc way of skimming is different to my way but it works for him. Not sure john what you are saying but I think I get your drift.
No reskims are the same, all different and in thickness skimming boards is skimming boards no big deal.
 
I do look for faster ways that work and keep the quality, would love to do the 2hr hits in winter, get sick of the same hit at 3.5 hrs to 4 hrs this time of the year
 
I remember going to do privates after five, those were the days, I don't have the energy for this now,but three hits a day was the norm six days a week,viewing jobs every evening to price and advise,
 
johniosaif said:
I remember going to do privates after five, those were the days, I don't have the energy for this now,but three hits a day was the norm six days a week,viewing jobs every evening to price and advise,
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I remember those days john, got no interest now tho,just about manage 5 days now
 
malc said:
we do a complete new mix for the second coat, if we want to speed the set up we would put a couple of hawk fulls into the water then add the powder.
plastering seems to evolve differently in different areas. we put the first coat on tight, no lines, just covering the board. no need to flatten. second coat lay on thicker, no lines no holes it should look like it can be finished easy. first trowel, scrape off some plaster, second trowel all strokes the same length. final quick trowel all strokes the same length. that is the best way that i can describe the process. i have had lot of plasterers ask how do you do that ?
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Gotcha Malc:RpS_thumbup:
 
Cant believe that thread Lol, ime of the school that it needs as many trowels as needed to get paid, on a serious note you know of any tickets for Wed Super?
 
lucius said:
Cant believe that thread Lol, ime of the school that it needs as many trowels as needed to get paid, on a serious note you know of any tickets for Wed Super?
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I don't fella , I'll make a few enquiries in the morning to see if anything going on and come back to you if there is , don't normal like night games but looking forward to this one
 
johniosaif said:
I personally don't like a lot of the bodge it and legit ways promoted as 'quality plastering' I would run people off my site for a lot of the ways stated on this thread, that's just me, if others are happy with it that's fine too ,there is the right way and the dirty water cement old mix way, but needs must I suppose, I earn enough my way and I suppose they earn enough there way
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You wouldn't kick me off your site would you John? :-0
 
No, you are to be admired I think, the right age enthusiasm etc, bit like me 20 yrs ago, I hope the job gives you a good living, reckon though you should branch into building works too though, this game has got tougher to make a decent living from.
 
johniosaif said:
No, you are to be admired I think, the right age enthusiasm etc, bit like me 20 yrs ago, I hope the job gives you a good living, reckon though you should branch into building works too though, this game has got tougher to make a decent living from.
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Thank you ...
 
So much shite, all in the same thread....All we need is someone to come along and say they don't drop any...........
 
malc said:
we do a complete new mix for the second coat, if we want to speed the set up we would put a couple of hawk fulls into the water then add the powder.
plastering seems to evolve differently in different areas. we put the first coat on tight, no lines, just covering the board. no need to flatten. second coat lay on thicker, no lines no holes it should look like it can be finished easy. first trowel, scrape off some plaster, second trowel all strokes the same length. final quick trowel all strokes the same length. that is the best way that i can describe the process. i have had lot of plasterers ask how do you do that ?
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Malc, if the guy that taught me see me putting the second coat on thicker than the 1st coat he would of hung me by my balls, i say that cos the bruising didnt go down for weeks.
 
malc said:
we do a complete new mix for the second coat, if we want to speed the set up we would put a couple of hawk fulls into the water then add the powder.
plastering seems to evolve differently in different areas. we put the first coat on tight, no lines, just covering the board. no need to flatten. second coat lay on thicker, no lines no holes it should look like it can be finished easy. first trowel, scrape off some plaster, second trowel all strokes the same length. final quick trowel all strokes the same length. that is the best way that i can describe the process. i have had lot of plasterers ask how do you do that ?
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Malc i say this with respect as you've obviously been doing it a long time, but why would you lay your 2nd coat on thicker than the 1st and why with your first trowel up would you then scrape off plaster that you have already spent time putting on ?
 
Airborne said:
Malc i say this with respect as you've obviously been doing it a long time, but why would you lay your 2nd coat on thicker than the 1st and why with your first trowel up would you then scrape off plaster that you have already spent time putting on ?
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i am talking about low suction work like skimming board. the first coat is on very thin just covering the board,the second coat is applied thicker then the first coat , first trowel drag some of the plaster off so that you have a minimum thickness, so that will knock time off the set and gives a very good finish.
 
johniosaif said:
I personally don't like a lot of the bodge it and legit ways promoted as 'quality plastering' I would run people off my site for a lot of the ways stated on this thread, that's just me, if others are happy with it that's fine too ,there is the right way and the dirty water cement old mix way, but needs must I suppose, I earn enough my way and I suppose they earn enough there way
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Its not just me then? Nice one John :RpS_thumbup:
 
kebab king said:
Malc, if the guy that taught me see me putting the second coat on thicker than the 1st coat he would of hung me by my balls, i say that cos the bruising didnt go down for weeks.
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a lot of plasterers work like that, when we use to put the first coat on with a float it was thick first coat then lay down tight. they just carried on using the same method they did not want to change.
 
superspread said:
I don't fella , I'll make a few enquiries in the morning to see if anything going on and come back to you if there is , don't normal like night games but looking forward to this one
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No probs mate got one, same as you with midweek games don't mind if ime working in town just part of going home but if ime local to home its a pain going in and out again.
 
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