making the transition from plastering to rendering!

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ok so before anyone says it yes a PLASTERER also RENDERS etc...

However we tend to end up predominately down 1 route or another depending on what work & contacts cross or paths over the yrs etc...

For nearly 20ys ive been plastering with only a very small % of bits of rendering thrown in...mainly s&c the odd thin coat stuff etc..

Im just wondering if consciously any of you have decided to fade out your plastering works and push rendering and if so how has it panned out?

Presently I see it like this rendering in the main is better money however when you factor in days off due to uk weather and the fact that you generally need at least a labourer if not 2 lads & labourer for bigger jobs...does the money over the course of a year tend to level out?

I generally can fill most days of the week bar the odd wk or so around xmas nw yr with internals though there's not the money there anymore around these parts however you never struggle to earn and certainly don't need the commitment and layout of a labourers wage to find etc.

Also with mono becoming more and more popular im guessing sooner or later you have to decide to buy a machine thus again more costs etc.

Any opinions experiances welcome....Thanks Zombie
 
we do what ever comes in, internals, externals, floor screeding etc.
there is a lot of ewi about at this time of year as the councils need to complete their works before april.
 
Been looking a machines for a while now but still can't make up my mind which one I should buy.
Agree with Malc if you got loads of everything .
I bet the mono dudes etc decided to do it full time after they had built it up over time.
 
zombie said:
ok so before anyone says it yes a PLASTERER also RENDERS etc...

However we tend to end up predominately down 1 route or another depending on what work & contacts cross or paths over the yrs etc...

For nearly 20ys ive been plastering with only a very small % of bits of rendering thrown in...mainly s&c the odd thin coat stuff etc..

Im just wondering if consciously any of you have decided to fade out your plastering works and push rendering and if so how has it panned out?

Presently I see it like this rendering in the main is better money however when you factor in days off due to uk weather and the fact that you generally need at least a labourer if not 2 lads & labourer for bigger jobs...does the money over the course of a year tend to level out?

I generally can fill most days of the week bar the odd wk or so around xmas nw yr with internals though there's not the money there anymore around these parts however you never struggle to earn and certainly don't need the commitment and layout of a labourers wage to find etc.

Also with mono becoming more and more popular im guessing sooner or later you have to decide to buy a machine thus again more costs etc.

Any opinions experiances welcome....Thanks Zombie
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the machine does cost but long term you earn far more money by having one
 
Might be different on very large builds, over here you tend to do both all the time with very few specialist, what I have noticed is the fall of in colored render since the boom years, much of it looks s**t five years on and I don't have any confidence in its suitability to our wet cloudy moderate climate. Even the anti fungal varieties. If there was a machine to do SnC would be worth it alright.

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Might be different on very large builds, over here you tend to do both all the time with very few specialist, what I have noticed is the fall of in colored render since the boom years, much of it looks s**t five years on and I don't have any confidence in its suitability to our wet cloudy moderate climate. Even the anti fungal varieties. If there was a machine to do SnC would be worth it alright.

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A diesel machine will do Sand and cement. But u need to find the right Sand. And that's not easy.
 
I know four parts of bugger all about rendering, machine or otherwise, but I've been on a few shotcrete jobs in tunnels and culverts. Are the machines very different?
 
zombie said:
ok so before anyone says it yes a PLASTERER also RENDERS etc...

However we tend to end up predominately down 1 route or another depending on what work & contacts cross or paths over the yrs etc...

For nearly 20ys ive been plastering with only a very small % of bits of rendering thrown in...mainly s&c the odd thin coat stuff etc..

Im just wondering if consciously any of you have decided to fade out your plastering works and push rendering and if so how has it panned out?

Presently I see it like this rendering in the main is better money however when you factor in days off due to uk weather and the fact that you generally need at least a labourer if not 2 lads & labourer for bigger jobs...does the money over the course of a year tend to level out?

I generally can fill most days of the week bar the odd wk or so around xmas nw yr with internals though there's not the money there anymore around these parts however you never struggle to earn and certainly don't need the commitment and layout of a labourers wage to find etc.

Also with mono becoming more and more popular im guessing sooner or later you have to decide to buy a machine thus again more costs etc.

Any opinions experiances welcome....Thanks Zombie
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I started doing more outside work about 5 yeas ago, I had some Ewi offered and the guy who was working with me at the time did a lot of thin coat previously so I took the plunge, I've been in the trade since I was 16 (34 next year) and had done enough render jobs but mainly s&c and bits of mono with some base coating,so we had some manufacturer training and started the job took my time to learn off the guy who had more knowledge than me and picked it up. Since then I started pushing the outside work more and only been back on the inside once since then and the plastering has kind of phased out which hasn't bothered me, the turnover on the outside is more due to the cost of material and the extra care that has to be taken remember it's hard to patch render so it's barely noticeable and its outside everyone can see it drop a bollock and everyone will think your a rough c**t,but the profits are healthy. Plan your jobs properly and it's only really adverse weather like some are having not that will really stop you earning.[emoji106]
 
I do everything which involves pushing s**t up the wall
I hate the thought of just skimming or just mono.
Been lime rendering today indoors which I haven't done for a few months so a nice change
I would prefer rendering external mind
 
Enjoy the mix of work there is NO way I could skim every day, out of preference I would only render if I had to make a choice, reason being there is more satisfaction in the job. Anything I skim now I don't look at twice and not really any satisfaction.
 
I'm with you on the inside work @zombie. Customers are clued up and you're lucky to get more than day rate on it.
All my proper earning jobs are outside work. I like a mix of work though. The next two months are booked up with skimming and that's makes me feel sick! It's mind numbingly repetitive as you know.
There's so much more satisfaction and pride in external work by a long stretch! If the weather was better I'd say go for doing just that but look how it's been for the last month and experts reckon this will be the norm now with climate change.
Respect to all those that do render full time. I don't think I could handle the stress of the unpredictable weather.
 
If the job requires plastering, coving, rendering/rough casting and floor screeding ... You just get on with it!

You can't expect to cherry pick the bits you want to do - Saying that I do come across it & finish off all the shite "skimmers" choose not to do.
 
One of the reasons I chose plastering for a trade was because when I was a hoddy I got pissed off at sitting in site huts/vans/sheds waiting for the rain to stop only to be sent home with no pay. I reckon it's better to do a bit of everything. Variety is the spice of life and all that....
 
I was bought up on rendering and ewi 20 years ago, got fed up with it and only done internals.
Now I'm fed up with internals and only really want externals. May change my mind again, who knows.
 
Exactly that @malc, loads of permarock. Then the acrylic came in with Sto and Alsecco.
You seen them 4 tower blocks in Isle of Dogs all dashed in Permarock, highest I've ever been 25 story's.
 
These ones.
 

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It's nice to do a house inside and outside,just try to pick your days with the outside.It's nearly all s+c outside where I am.Thats just what they want.I'd like to do a bit of the modern external systems but there would'nt be a hope of that around here.
 
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Exactly that @malc, loads of permarock. Then the acrylic came in with Sto and Alsecco.
You seen them 4 tower blocks in Isle of Dogs all dashed in Permarock, highest I've ever been 25 story's.
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we were often working on the isle of dogs, i would guess the largest block and biggest job we done for permaroc is the on broadwater farm tottenham.
 
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