Thankyou. You just proved me right
Didn't say they did.... I said 12.5mm did.15mm require no noggins, still 600 c
Its behind you!No it's not. Unless there's alot of noggins
?Its behind you!
That's why he's not a plasterer. Guys an idiotIf u use 12.5 on 600 centres ceiling will sag to s**t
oh no they dontIf u use 12.5 on 600 centres ceiling will sag to s**t
Very rare theres noggins in now on new builds in ceilings..pretty much always 600 centres with no noggins,15mm on ceilings as was a massive problem with 12.5 saggingnoggins were mentioned way back by jamesthefirst, i would always noggin when building myself.
Trust me pal there dooh no they dont
We've seen your building, I wouldn't trust you to put up a stud wall let alone ceiling joistsnoggins were mentioned way back by jamesthefirst, i would always noggin when building myself.
The customer has been walking around in the loft space for sure blame him and stand your groundHi there, I am new to this forum but would be very grateful for some advice from fellow plasters. I have been in the building trade for about 20 years and in the last 10 years set up by myself and taken on a lot more plastering work. however, a few months ago a took down an old ceiling in a massive kitchen, moved a wall, re-boarded it with 9.5mm boards, skim taped it, screwed it up exactly the same as I always do and skimmed it. Then 3 months later it has started to crack and has come loose in places. The house owner is obviously not happy and has left threatening voicemail messages on my phone. He thinks the timber we screwed into wasn't thick enough and so he and the other builder I was working with have put in a lot more timber above and re-screwed, filled and repainted but it is still cracking. I really don't know why this is happening. I haven't done anything different to any other ceiling I have boarded and skimmed? I am going back today to try and work out why this is happening. It is a 80's built bungalow so there is nothing above the kitchen. My initial thought was that the thin factory made trusses they used in the roof maybe causing slight movement to the ceiling? The owner of the house is adamant that this is not caused by movement from above and is because we haven't screwed the boards up properly but I didn't do anything different to any other ceiling I have done. I really don't know why this is happening, can anyone help?
Good for overboardswhy is it still made?
put up hundreds, all still thereWe've seen your building, I wouldn't trust you to put up a stud wall let alone ceiling joists
Never mind that s**t vincey ......what do you think about using 9.5 instead of 12.5 . You are the voice of reason on here.xThe customer has been walking around in the loft space for sure blame him and stand your ground
Leave easifill bag for him
Everything cracks
Tbh I normally use 12.5 but use to use 9.5 all the time if it’s 600 centres on a shitty 1980s build they was crap build then as now , so can’t blame plastererNever mind that s**t vincey ......what do you think about using 9.5 instead of 12.5 . You are the voice of reason on here.x
Please feel free to interject with your opinion on some if not all of the answers so far to your predicament @EJB .Hi there, I am new to this forum but would be very grateful for some advice from fellow plasters. I have been in the building trade for about 20 years and in the last 10 years set up by myself and taken on a lot more plastering work. however, a few months ago a took down an old ceiling in a massive kitchen, moved a wall, re-boarded it with 9.5mm boards, skim taped it, screwed it up exactly the same as I always do and skimmed it. Then 3 months later it has started to crack and has come loose in places. The house owner is obviously not happy and has left threatening voicemail messages on my phone. He thinks the timber we screwed into wasn't thick enough and so he and the other builder I was working with have put in a lot more timber above and re-screwed, filled and repainted but it is still cracking. I really don't know why this is happening. I haven't done anything different to any other ceiling I have boarded and skimmed? I am going back today to try and work out why this is happening. It is a 80's built bungalow so there is nothing above the kitchen. My initial thought was that the thin factory made trusses they used in the roof maybe causing slight movement to the ceiling? The owner of the house is adamant that this is not caused by movement from above and is because we haven't screwed the boards up properly but I didn't do anything different to any other ceiling I have done. I really don't know why this is happening, can anyone help?
When light goes across it it looks different colour than rest, brighterWhat do you mean flashes?
I have teeth like that........just sayingWhen light goes across it it looks different colour than rest, brighter
I thought you meant that.When light goes across it it looks different colour than rest, brighter
I'd love it iff all ceilings was ply lined..straight up no bother,joiners that shite these days sometimes centres dont hit a full boardon a high quality spec, the ceiling is first fitted with 12mm ply . as ply is laminated both ways it has great strength. then covered with 12 mm or 15 mm plasterboard to receive skim.
i have never known a ceiling with this spec to crack.
I'd love it iff all ceilings was ply lined..straight up no bother,joiners that shite these days sometimes centres dont hit a full board
we fit the ply and it is nice just fitting full boards.
600 centres need 15mm ceiling board/greyNot come across many 400 more like 600 in bungalows ,9.5 boards would sag over time with moisture , especially if boiling veg in kitchen
@EJB check for signs of someone been walking around up their , new light installation , aerial perhaps
Your the biggest chancer on here u fuckingg dosseronly a chancer would not keep some 9.5 board handy for patching 9.5 boarded walls/ceilings.
U r a proper numpty ain’t yano mate,600 for both 12.5 and 15mm.
spec is always 15mm board on s**t 600mm centres, your not a spread so how would u know lol, just cause u googled it doesn’t mean it’s rite , u fuckking tape jockeyhow many times you need me to prove your incompetence in one day?
U should know , you are a board monkeyIf u use 12.5 on 600 centres ceiling will sag to s**t
A rich board monkey..ya dosserU should know , you are a board monkey