irish_spread
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:RpS_cursing: Suffering now tho :RpS_thumbdn:
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:RpS_cursing: Suffering now tho :RpS_thumbdn:
bubbles65
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Aye........knees, back, elbows, fingers.
And they say save for a pension!
hmy: ................I'll be furkin lucky:RpS_laugh:
martinemj
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starting to myself...esp in mornings
i just passed my city and guilds ion sunday, and I am miles and years away from time served.. But it makes u wonder, I have been taught from the basics, from the ground up to do things properly. Its just down to me getting out there and getting experience but I was talking to a time served plasterer the other day and telling him about columns how difficult they are and what is involved about getting them 100% square and the correct distance between each bead - he said nah in the real world u just bang them on get them squareish and thats it. but to me thats the cowboy way !!
My lil bros a fireman, hes a big hard fecker as well. Some of the s**t he tells me that hes seen - I think theyre worth every penny they earn quite honestly. Would you want to pull a half chared 5 year old kid out of a fire for feck all? then go home to your own kids and feed them and not think about the lil one you pulled out of the fire? I think probably not. Hes also a semi pro rugby player so makes a little cash of this in his time (cant learn this skill on a week course).
Anyway rant over about the firean thing. Why not lets all set up plastering schools ourselves say 10 students a week £4 Grand - cheers 9-5 mon to friday.
Also, you must all agree that we have actually picked up work from these chancers when theyve fecked it up and we put it right - I for one have had to undo a lot of this work. Also with chancers they never get repeat work and never get recomended - so should be short time careers as ahem "plasterers"
Anyway rant over about the firean thing. Why not lets all set up plastering schools ourselves say 10 students a week £4 Grand - cheers 9-5 mon to friday.
Also, you must all agree that we have actually picked up work from these chancers when theyve fecked it up and we put it right - I for one have had to undo a lot of this work. Also with chancers they never get repeat work and never get recomended - so should be short time careers as ahem "plasterers"
what are u on about mate? are u talking about people who go to college to study plastering are chancers?
Quite simply YES
University degree Law fresh out - would you want them to defend you in a murder trial?
Accountancy degree fresh out - would you trust them with a multi million pound corporartion tax return?
etc
etc
etc
so YES, the real world is out there...................................
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lol, mate serious your an arseh+le ok, my mate who is plastering near 30 years started with a course... i thought this forum had intelligent people
in it.. mate serious u have are really letting this forum down.... i have had some intelligent conversations with people and good smart and knowledgable
answers, but your answer makes me want to throttle you. look at what your saying kn@b.........
a person wanting to do well in life and get a qualification say in...., plastering, that person has now been shown the correct way and not the
cowboy way. all he needs now is a chance to gain extra knowledge and experience. he is not calling himself an experienced plasterer mate,
he is just starting out... how is that a chancer? think about it...lol
i work in a builders merchants and i am seeing polish, lithuanians etc buying trolleys of plaster, hardwall etc etc... no qualifications (just chancing there arm), ripping people off and not giving a sh"t. i see it everyday... i went and looked at an internal wall that had been rendered. I was asked to skim it. It
was about 7m long. The guy who done it was romanian and was an experienced all rounder. His boss told me (who is a customer where i work). When I got there first thing i noticed was the wall hadnt been devil floated, and the render was not closed in. second I splashed the wall with water and it sucked it straight in... I asked him and ne forgot to put waterproofer in the render.... I just walked away from the job......NOW MATE THATS A CHANCER....
another example a customer buying hardwall asking me how much PVA do use? lol
and trying to use bonding on thermalites.......lol thats a chancer
Now are u grasping what im saying?
Thanks FreeD your comments are correct, u do need to take a chance!!
does everyone agree with me or am I way off the mark?
I do understand a lot of plasteres never did a course and was taught the hard way and are time served now, but a course
is 100 times better than CHANCING !!
u always seem to find the negative side......is an extension, no windows nothing in it, outside render had no waterproofer also.........
waterproofer in a mix equalises suction throughout
irish_spread
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Too much reading spark2010, not enough doing :rolleyes)
you've opened a whole different can of worms there danny, how many 16 year olds are willing to work hard for average money, yes there are a few but the majority are not interested. just because youve been on a course doesnt make you rough. its the fact they have no experience at all. you can't blame the customers alone. if you see an advert for something at both asda and tesco and asda is cheaper, where are you gonna go and get it? joe public don't know a good plastering job from a bad one. so it the responsibility of the trade or FMB or whoever, to make sure the standards are up.
Freerider
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dont worry mate, as with most forums on the internet, people are know it alls and always try to put other people down to make themselves feel bigger and better!
Nothing wrong with doing a course, but providing you dont think thats the end of it, as really thats just the beginning! I make mistakes all the time and I been doing it about 7 years now, all experience means is you **** up less!
Gibbo
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thats still a normal days work and still 5 pound a m2 irish im still doing it now at 43
irish_spread
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Not for me anymore, but then again I'm 44 :RpS_laugh:
your right the real world is out there, would you rather a University degree Lawyer fresh out to defend you in a murder trial or one one with no quals fresh out of nowhere? or an accountant with an Accountancy degree fresh out - would you trust them with a multi million pound corporartion tax return or some one with nothing fresh out of nowhere? qualifications are worth more than none and a course is worth more than no course fair enough experierence on top is better but you have to start somewhere.
thanks, na i fully understand, i did a course and yes its the beginning, i know that and am looking forward to the journey!!!
broonster
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I can't wait for the journey to end 36 years now still doing the same shite i was doin at 16
Gibbo
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totally agree mate
broonster
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Make that 33 years.....Carlite on the brain LOL
essexandy
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It's no good moaning about people doing courses and then taking your work if you are prepared to give help and advise to the numpties and chancers on this forum, this forum IMO has really dumbed down and is now not so much a plasterers forum as a "I want to be a plasterer" forum. All these chancers are taking someones work if not yours.
Yep, remember, was taught with that stuff, seem to remember about 84, or 85 when they changed it.
bubbles65
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lol...quality
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