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if you were a boss of a big construction company, wouldn't it be convenient to employ a load of workers on lower wages. It would also be handy if you could hire and fire them at will.

Does that explain why their wages have risen over a hundred times over the last 30 years, whereas in real terms, ours have gone down?
 
Dont bother Andy weve been there before so ime sure most on here know what you want to say wish i knew the answer just think it is all to late to change it all.
 
spunky said:
My best year was 2 years ago before that I was finding my feet as a subby I earnt most of it in 4 months on a very good job and didn't do too bad before, I was working but not all price that was 37000 and still struggled no holiday etc and borrowing money at Christmas
For the work we did and what we had in return was a joke I don't over spend got cheap hobbies etc it's a mugs game
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mugs game indeed. if u take into consideration the effort involved compared to other trades, plasterers should be getting paid a lot of money. or day work should be about 2 bags. when most other trades wander about, do a bit here and there, have a 10am break, a 1pm break etc.
 
nickelarse said:
mugs game indeed. if u take into consideration the effort involved compared to other trades, plasterers should be getting paid a lot of money. or day work should be about 2 bags. when most other trades wander about, do a bit here and there, have a 10am break, a 1pm break etc.
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spot on, we're worked the hardest and probably one of the lowest paid

feel like a friggin slave
 
Been reading this thread with some interest and i think some of you lads are looking back with rose tinted specs on.
So i`ve run the original post through an historic inflation calculator and it came out at .
Remember these were the contractors rates and not what blokes rekon to earn back in 83


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Render (1:1:6)and set in Siraphite
Walls £6.17 m2
Walls to staircase areas £9.34 m2

Walls in Bonding and Carlite finish £6.59

Scrim joints and skim coat to plasterboard
Walls £4.11
Ceilings £4.50

Angle bead 70p linear
Stop bead 83p

2 coat PVA £2.72 M2

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Now i know where i am in relation to those prices and i'd prefer to be in 2012. You lads can make your own minds up.
One of our problems is once you have the skill set to achieve an exceptable finish and producing a sensible meterage , you have no where else to go. You can't produce a better finish , the product itself doesn't allow for more to be done in the same time period, so you're stuct with what you are. There's no corporate ladder to climb , if we take the previous post of a teacher as an example . The young teacher starts off on a salary , shows an attitude and is willing to work , progresses through the structure head of year or head of department and so forth. More and more responsibility and salary increases accordingly. But we can't do that, we can only set ? squares a day. So you're stuffed , for reasons mentioned above. Alternitives , you find a premium product that you can charge a premium rate for , in my case lime work, or you take on bigger and bigger contracts and more and more spreads in order to service them. The problem with this is you still only get the same meterage rate and the bigger the company , the bigger its over heads . So the smaller the percentage profit. To the point where you've got to pay the spreads themselves less than you would like too. This is why i can go and overskim mrs jones kitchen ceiling for £10 per meter as the primary contractor , but the same ceiling for a local builder as a subby , would be 75% of that. But as an employee of a large company , you would be lucky to see 33% of it. It's just the way it is and if you don't like it , get out of the game.
 
This is why I'm using spats, speedskims and sponges now. If I can get more on...fair enough but if I cant, then at least I'm getting more 'sit down' time like those lazy ass joiners.
 
sub55 said:
Been reading this thread with some interest and i think some of you lads are looking back with rose tinted specs on.
So i`ve run the original post through an historic inflation calculator and it came out at .
Remember these were the contractors rates and not what blokes rekon to earn back in 83


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Render (1:1:6)and set in Siraphite
Walls £6.17 m2
Walls to staircase areas £9.34 m2

Walls in Bonding and Carlite finish £6.59

Scrim joints and skim coat to plasterboard
Walls £4.11
Ceilings £4.50

Angle bead 70p linear
Stop bead 83p

2 coat PVA £2.72 M2

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Now i know where i am in relation to those prices and i'd prefer to be in 2012. You lads can make your own minds up.
One of our problems is once you have the skill set to achieve an exceptable finish and producing a sensible meterage , you have no where else to go. You can't produce a better finish , the product itself doesn't allow for more to be done in the same time period, so you're stuct with what you are. There's no corporate ladder to climb , if we take the previous post of a teacher as an example . The young teacher starts off on a salary , shows an attitude and is willing to work , progresses through the structure head of year or head of department and so forth. More and more responsibility and salary increases accordingly. But we can't do that, we can only set ? squares a day. So you're stuffed , for reasons mentioned above. Alternitives , you find a premium product that you can charge a premium rate for , in my case lime work, or you take on bigger and bigger contracts and more and more spreads in order to service them. The problem with this is you still only get the same meterage rate and the bigger the company , the bigger its over heads . So the smaller the percentage profit. To the point where you've got to pay the spreads themselves less than you would like too. This is why i can go and overskim mrs jones kitchen ceiling for £10 per meter as the primary contractor , but the same ceiling for a local builder as a subby , would be 75% of that. But as an employee of a large company , you would be lucky to see 33% of it. It's just the way it is and if you don't like it , get out of the game.
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Nice post mate but i dont realy get what you are saying, how many people are on £4.11 m2 skimming today?
 
like ya post mate

not met you before so 'ayup mucka'

why have you got a pic of danny has your avatar :RpS_lol:
 
sub55 said:
Been reading this thread with some interest and i think some of you lads are looking back with rose tinted specs on.
So i`ve run the original post through an historic inflation calculator and it came out at .
Remember these were the contractors rates and not what blokes rekon to earn back in 83


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Render (1:1:6)and set in Siraphite
Walls £6.17 m2
Walls to staircase areas £9.34 m2

Walls in Bonding and Carlite finish £6.59

Scrim joints and skim coat to plasterboard
Walls £4.11
Ceilings £4.50

Angle bead 70p linear
Stop bead 83p

2 coat PVA £2.72 M2

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Now i know where i am in relation to those prices and i'd prefer to be in 2012. You lads can make your own minds up.
One of our problems is once you have the skill set to achieve an exceptable finish and producing a sensible meterage , you have no where else to go. You can't produce a better finish , the product itself doesn't allow for more to be done in the same time period, so you're stuct with what you are. There's no corporate ladder to climb , if we take the previous post of a teacher as an example . The young teacher starts off on a salary , shows an attitude and is willing to work , progresses through the structure head of year or head of department and so forth. More and more responsibility and salary increases accordingly. But we can't do that, we can only set ? squares a day. So you're stuffed , for reasons mentioned above. Alternitives , you find a premium product that you can charge a premium rate for , in my case lime work, or you take on bigger and bigger contracts and more and more spreads in order to service them. The problem with this is you still only get the same meterage rate and the bigger the company , the bigger its over heads . So the smaller the percentage profit. To the point where you've got to pay the spreads themselves less than you would like too. This is why i can go and overskim mrs jones kitchen ceiling for £10 per meter as the primary contractor , but the same ceiling for a local builder as a subby , would be 75% of that. But as an employee of a large company , you would be lucky to see 33% of it. It's just the way it is and if you don't like it , get out of the game.
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How about go **** yourself :-)
 
NPS said:
like ya post mate

not met you before so 'ayup mucka'

why have you got a pic of danny has your avatar :RpS_lol:
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? The only danny ive seen on here owns the place . never met him but im sure he's a spot on guy.
But what the colloration between my avatar and him is , i don't know.
Enlighten me before i make a fool of myself.
 
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